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JDPriestly

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19. There weren't any "standards" when I went to school.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:08 PM
Nov 2012

Last edited Thu Nov 29, 2012, 04:28 PM - Edit history (1)

And there were even fewer when my mother went to her one-room country school.

People educate themselves if challenged by their parents and teachers with interesting problems to solve, good books to read and exciting stories and facts.

Testing, testing, testing, testing, testing is boring.

I would have flunked out of high school with today's curriculum.

You know what turned me on to school: a three-dimensional miniature of the Parthenon made by my sixth grade teacher, Mrs. Stahl, out of some strange concoction of flour, sugar, salt and whatever.

I was in sixth grade. I saw that model. We read a little about Greece and the birth of the idea of democracy, and at 10 years old, I decided that I was going to go and see the real thing one day.

It took a lot of work because my family had no money. I had to study hard, get good SAT scores, go to college, and finally, I found a way to go and see the Parthenon.

I had a goal, a goal I did not think I could ever attain. It was a childish goal, but I never lost sight of it.

When my husband and I actually reached Greece, visited Athens and saw the Parthenon, we spent days just sitting on the grounds, just contemplating the beauty of it, the idealism, the life, the history that has taken place there.

Tests do not turn kids on to learning. Ideas they can use in their lives, beauty they can enjoy and links to the past and future are the things that cause people to learn.

When I look at the buildings of my local schools, the little temporary classrooms -- dismal places with teachers who have no time for making models of the Parthenon or staying late to teach just that one talented, but poor kid how to play the violin, I think what a waste it is to spend money on tests and worry about scores. The tests and the scores have nothing to do with the real learning.

Oh, and because I was such a fan of the Parthenon so early on, I eventually went to the library and found a few books -- some story about Sisyphus, some about Oedipus Rex, great stories that I just picked up at random from the shelf because they had something to do with Greece, and I cared about Greece because my teacher, Mrs. Stahl, had cared about Greece.

Tests are useless. Scores are useless.

By the way, the grade school I attended has been turned into some sort of school for special education or something. It's great that all children are getting an education, but I wonder to what extent children end up in special ed quite simply because teachers are so busy teaching to the tests that they don't have time to make miniature Parthenons and the like.

Success is 90% perspiration and 10% inspiration, but without that 10% inspiration, there is no success.

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Surprise, surprise, surprise DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #1
I love Obama on most issues, but not on this one. He supports and pushes charters and seems Squinch Nov 2012 #3
I'm with you on this one Squinch. iemitsu Nov 2012 #10
+10000! Fearless Nov 2012 #29
In Florida, 89% of public schools reported failure to meet AYP in 2010-2011 NYC_SKP Nov 2012 #2
According to that link, Alabama is vastly outperforming New Jersey. Uhhhh....yeah, right. Squinch Nov 2012 #22
The entire education reform scam sulphurdunn Nov 2012 #4
And about one in six non-charter schools are in the bottom 15%, too! Pterodactyl Nov 2012 #5
Yep. People don't seem to understand statistics very well. wildeyed Nov 2012 #14
It's not mindless bashing. Squinch Nov 2012 #23
Hahaha! Too late. wildeyed Nov 2012 #30
How long have your children been attending their charters? Squinch Nov 2012 #31
Oldest for four years, youngest for three. n/t wildeyed Nov 2012 #32
My kids go to a charter school and we're very happy with it. Pterodactyl Nov 2012 #35
good. close them. Public schools were one of the best things about this country. Remember? robinlynne Nov 2012 #6
What about the good charter schools? hack89 Nov 2012 #18
In most places they don't have to meet the standards, so how would you know? Squinch Nov 2012 #24
Because my state has a model charter school law and excellent charter schools hack89 Nov 2012 #26
That must be very nice. It's also pretty rare. Squinch Nov 2012 #27
I agree more states need to be like RI. nt hack89 Nov 2012 #28
Good NickP Nov 2012 #7
Like France USMCMustang Nov 2012 #8
What Is Never Discussed Regarding Education USMCMustang Nov 2012 #9
Hey guys I have a great idea! Ash_F Nov 2012 #11
Arne Duncan is that you? Hi Arne! byeya Nov 2012 #12
The smiley does have similar teeth. Ash_F Nov 2012 #13
LOL byeya Nov 2012 #16
There weren't any "standards" when I went to school. JDPriestly Nov 2012 #19
Your post is awesome, JD. ChazII Nov 2012 #20
Every year I read about charter schools that close up without notice. Archae Nov 2012 #15
where I live, there are plenty of public schools that should be closed for the same reason. olddad56 Nov 2012 #17
The people who are opposed to charter schools know that. They just hate charter schools. slackmaster Nov 2012 #21
Where I live, when a public school does not perform for three years, the school is "closed," the Squinch Nov 2012 #25
It varies from state to state. wildeyed Nov 2012 #33
My daughter is a teacher in a charter school in South Florida. RebelOne Nov 2012 #34
The country is catching on to how good charters can be. Someday DU-ers will, too! Pterodactyl Nov 2012 #36
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