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In reply to the discussion: Libyans lob grenades, storm NTC office in uprising cradle [View all]PurityOfEssence
(13,150 posts)This is one of the most irritating traits of goody two-shoes interventionists: making sweeping statements that certain groups are the entire heart and soul of the Libyan people.
With the full weight of western air power and Qatari ground forces, they still took the better part of a year to topple Qaddafi; that clearly shows that he had plenty of true support and that--as is often the case in such times--many took no part in the action at all.
To say that anything that supports your contention is the clear voice of "the Libyans" bears no scrutiny. There has been no voting, except among self-appointed politicians. There has certainly been no plebicite. There are many factions and lots going on here, and the continued haranguing that everything's quite simple and straightforward is just a continuation of the extreme arrogance of the interventionists in the first place.
The very legitimacy of the claim that this is a true assertion of the will of the people also holds no water: the rebellion was being quite handily put down, and the only thing that saved it was MASSIVE foreign intervention.
Also, to pre-empt the tiresome argument that we had help in our revolution, let's remember that France didn't intervene in our Revolution until more than two years after it had started, and after we had won a clear strategic victory at Saratoga; we were a viable force and had shown our will, even if the colonies were very much in civil war and not fully behind the fight.
Things are very jittery there now, whether we get it in our corporatist media or not.
I'll tell you one group of people we're not hearing anything from: the many, many dead, many of whom would still be alive if we hadn't gone on our deceptive imperial oil-thieving vendetta.