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0rganism

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43. Not in that set up, not for long
Tue Mar 19, 2024, 07:45 PM
Mar 2024

I've done some carpentry in my time, not sure how much you do. I've also taken classes in Newtonian mechanics (static and dynamic) during my undergraduate engineering studies. From my POV there's no way that structure is robust and stable enough to use as an actual gallows.

The issue isn't the 4x4 posts themselves, I'm sure they're perfectly capable of supporting body weight when correctly placed. The problem is in the configuration. There's no easy way to make the thing work as more than a prop as constructed. Just look at it: where does the victim hang? In front of the platform? The posts that "vertically" (they aren't exactly straight up, you can see that from some angles) support the crossbeam also support the platform. There's no visible cantilever or drop door. How would you force an unwilling human to hang to death from the crossbeam when the platform is right under his/her feet? It just doesn't work that way.

As for its apparent stability, if that "noose" were replaced with a tire swing I wouldn't let a child play on it. Pushing an attached struggling victim off the side is a good way to get the entire thing to fall over. Granted, the injuries from such a fall could be fatal, but that's not a hanging.

If the mob had instead found a large tree and slung an actual noose over a thick branch about 10 feet up with a footstool beneath it, that would have been more of a credible deadly threat than these "gallows" with much less effort.

This message was self-deleted by its author Beachnutt Mar 2024 #1
No cops around on those streets, to stop these hostages from building gallows? Omnipresent Mar 2024 #2
Yes that was my thought moniss Mar 2024 #19
Here is the short video......... riversedge Mar 2024 #3
Thanks (hoping maybe it gets on YouTube since a bunch of people can't see tweets) BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 #4
What I find interesting is that they already expected to hang Mike. The placement of the gallows was planned Ford_Prefect Mar 2024 #5
The one "out" that the builders may have BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 #7
Yeah, the "Art" of Terrorism. ZZenith Mar 2024 #9
Yeah. Trump really attracts.... SergeStorms Mar 2024 #13
Nah, 'Art' is the guy on the scaffold with the beige fetish. louis-t Mar 2024 #21
It would have to be "art" because it would be fucking useless as a gallows jmowreader Mar 2024 #40
I've read that there were two groups. yardwork Mar 2024 #8
At the time of construction of the gallows, they still had fantasies of killing Pelosi, Schumer, and others. Earth-shine Mar 2024 #20
Hopefully the 1/6 sleuths will be all over it. likesmountains 52 Mar 2024 #6
On CSI they just zoom in and enhance. progressoid Mar 2024 #10
lol Marthe48 Mar 2024 #12
I just sent this to my husband. You may owe us 2 keyboards when he sees it! ms liberty Mar 2024 #32
they were just tourists et tu Mar 2024 #11
There's no way that noose and scaffold could have killed somebody FakeNoose Mar 2024 #14
Like your handle? orangecrush Mar 2024 #15
😎👍 FakeNoose Mar 2024 #17
Yep, that thing was more of a prop than a gallows 0rganism Mar 2024 #16
The 'knot' on the noose is a bunch of rope wrapped around a beer can/ SeattleVet Mar 2024 #23
That structure would easily kill a human Mysterian Mar 2024 #35
Maybe if it fell over on someone. Have you looked closely at their "noose"? 0rganism Mar 2024 #38
That's nylon rope sufficient to support the weight of a human body Mysterian Mar 2024 #39
Sure, the rope might be strong enough but the platform and supports aren't execution-ready 0rganism Mar 2024 #41
You don't think a 4x4 post would support a human body? Mysterian Mar 2024 #42
Not in that set up, not for long 0rganism Mar 2024 #43
A judge might see that differently. Soundness of the structure would not be the measure. The intention of the object Ford_Prefect Mar 2024 #25
I'm pretty sure it wasn't meant to be used... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #26
Agree; it's obviously much too flimsy to really hang anyone, but I'm wondering Ocelot II Mar 2024 #28
Why do you state that? Mysterian Mar 2024 #34
Because it wouldn't have supported the weight of a human body FakeNoose Mar 2024 #37
"The Leader" looks dressed like Roger Stone with the same squared off hat, long coat and goofy giant scarf that was his Cheezoholic Mar 2024 #18
Mental illness, no political agenda IronLionZion Mar 2024 #22
We need to be careful here NanaCat Mar 2024 #24
Key words: "OUTSIDE the Whitehouse". Think. Again. Mar 2024 #27
Yes. In the context of the whole situation the gallows was more than just "art." Ocelot II Mar 2024 #29
The presence of the gallows also proves.... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #31
Yeah, they weren't roaming the halls of the WH, yelling "Chop off his head!" tanyev Mar 2024 #36
"We need to be careful here" BumRushDaShow Mar 2024 #30
DU has been discussing this since January 6th, 2021 as it was happening. ms liberty Mar 2024 #33
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