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Native

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20. This article about the ethical issues regarding this is really good.
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 01:59 PM
Mar 2024

I thought these two points most interesting:


1. Montgomery agreed that the practice raises important animal welfare questions. When I asked him about the euthanizing of the donor pig, he raised the question, “Is it more humane to euthanize the pig and remove both kidneys for two transplants, or to remove one kidney and have the pig sustain the recovery period, where there’s pain and risk of infection?” It’s also not clear who would care for a donor pig that did survive, and who could pay for that care.

2. Peter Singer, the moral philosopher at Princeton who helped launch the modern animal rights movement and is also a vocal advocate for kidney donation, told me in an email that he is cautiously supportive of even lethal pig donations. “I would not insist on the pig surviving the surgery, because that’s an uncertain benefit and would require twice as many pigs to be used,” Singer wrote. “What I would like to see is that all pigs involved in the procedure — including at the research stage, which obviously will continue for some years, and including the pigs’ parents — are reared in conditions that meet not only their physical needs but their psychological and social needs — so not in a factory farm. That seems a minimum quid pro quo for the benefit the pig is conferring on humans.”

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22738680/pig-kidney-human-transplant

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Thank you science and people. Thank you. twodogsbarking Mar 2024 #1
I have my fingers crossed Marthe48 Mar 2024 #2
Stewie Griffin solved this problem years ago Ray Bruns Mar 2024 #3
yo DoBW Mar 2024 #11
Good news? Jean Genie Mar 2024 #4
Thank goodness you have the option of refusal then, and can die with your ethics intact. Hekate Mar 2024 #22
That was a bit harsh Miguelito Loveless Mar 2024 #30
Sorry to seem uncaring but surely you know there is a traffic in human organs from 2 sources Hekate Mar 2024 #32
Im waiting for the fundies to find a way to ban this.... getagrip_already Mar 2024 #5
I had a personal friend who had bladder cancer and had a pig's bladder inserted. flying_wahini Mar 2024 #6
Pigs are also skin graft donors to burn patients. I had a patient with 3rd degree burns that needed grafts. flying_wahini Mar 2024 #7
When my mom was 80 yr old-she had been having lower back pain for years. Then riversedge Mar 2024 #9
Good news. riversedge Mar 2024 #8
what about the pig brain? DoBW Mar 2024 #10
They have also transplanted a pig's anus onto his face..... lastlib Mar 2024 #31
The idea of intelligent mammals being bred just so their organs can be ripped out seems wrong. Beakybird Mar 2024 #12
I'm sure most vegans would pass on this option as well... (nt) Pluvious Mar 2024 #15
I have 2 daughters who are vegan and this Prairie_Seagull Mar 2024 #17
This article about the ethical issues regarding this is really good. Native Mar 2024 #20
Didn't they also do this with a heart a year or two back? GregariousGroundhog Mar 2024 #13
Yup. Looks like they added an additional human gene this time around & Native Mar 2024 #19
Good news from a human standpoint Bayard Mar 2024 #14
My guess is... Pluvious Mar 2024 #16
The thrust of the article is how this would level the playing field. Native Mar 2024 #21
The costs extend waaaay beyond the surgeon/ nurses/anesthesiologist.... Hekate Mar 2024 #29
Amazing, and to those that don't believe in silence, sit on it. republianmushroom Mar 2024 #18
"silence"? or "science"? JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2024 #23
delete by republianmushroom. republianmushroom Mar 2024 #24
My apology for the smart answer I gave you. republianmushroom Mar 2024 #25
No problem. And, I see how either would fit. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2024 #26
Wow! I figured Trump would be too selfish to donate a kidney. Midnight Writer Mar 2024 #27
I don't think anyone who's the least bit sane would want one of his. ICK. I sure wouldn't! nt CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2024 #28
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