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154. I disagree

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 04:25 PM

Nov 2012

this could weaken Hamas since they have held that working with the international community was a waste of time. That Palestine would achieve nothing if they didn't resort to violence.

Well now Hamas' political rivals just used the international community to get Palestine one step closer to being recognized as it's own sovereign nation.

Whether anyone wants sharia or not is a separate issue and has nothing to do with whether Palestine should be a sovereign nation.

Also not sure how Israelis are more oppressed then the Palestinians when Israel is already recognized as it's own country , isn't occupied by any other country and has the fourth most powerful military in the world.

I imagine Palestinians would love to be so "oppressed" as that.

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Palestinians Win Statehood Upgrade at U.N. [View all] Poll_Blind Nov 2012 OP

Tough for those who don't like it dipsydoodle Nov 2012 #1

Yeah, if you're watching the UN still, Susan Rice is SHRIEKING right now! Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #2

I'd literally just walked in door dipsydoodle Nov 2012 #5

But the US didn't veto it BainsBane Nov 2012 #50

It wasn't subject to a veto - that's why. dipsydoodle Nov 2012 #60

We have no veto in the UNGA, we voted against it. nt bemildred Nov 2012 #61

Thanks BainsBane Nov 2012 #62

There is no veto of a General Assembly vote. JackRiddler Nov 2012 #72

No kidding, she was literally SHRIEKING. Men can shriek. Women can shriek. She was SHRIEKING. Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #73

This I assume which is already up on Youtube for posterity. dipsydoodle Nov 2012 #86

speaking into a microphone, but still had to yell.. that takes talent Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #96

Nobody who has ever been the target of shrieking would call this shrieking. ieoeja Nov 2012 #138

didn't score many points on that one PatrynXX Nov 2012 #71

K&R & Next step? nt patrice Nov 2012 #3

Haul both their asses back to the negotiating table with the newly-added stick that... Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #4

Netanyahu wish it, to "beat off the extremely right-wing elements"? LOL, I seriously doubt it. nt MH1 Nov 2012 #84

LOL, I know. Just enunciating that he's got a choice. Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #139

he is those elements. yurbud Nov 2012 #136

To stop the apartheid Dont call me Shirley Nov 2012 #6

Apartheid to Some USMCMustang Nov 2012 #19

I know it's not what you meant...but ironically yes, that is the precise definition of apartheid.. Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #22

Apartheid to anyone who knows what Apartheid is. Ash_F Nov 2012 #37

Because the Apartheid South African Government Samjm Nov 2012 #101

Pretty sure that's not it Ash_F Nov 2012 #130

Yes, I clearly remember when being a bigot went out of fashion in the very early 1990's, hughee99 Nov 2012 #135

If I take you implication to be correct, that is literally as a bad as the "states rights" people... Ash_F Nov 2012 #137

A pretty gross argument to make? hughee99 Nov 2012 #142

That argument does not line up with the timeline of events. Ash_F Nov 2012 #150

What??? hughee99 Nov 2012 #151

Yes, I agree with you 100% Samjm Nov 2012 #155

It's Aparthied libodem Nov 2012 #83

+1000 DeSwiss Nov 2012 #38

this move shakes up the status quo, slightly Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #13

Bibi "moderate"??? Hell Hath No Fury Nov 2012 #21

you missed my point Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #25

Good question atreides1 Nov 2012 #17

maybe the Arab states could increase funding dlwickham Nov 2012 #64

Arab states provide more funding? That is funny. former9thward Nov 2012 #78

+1 n/t JudyM Nov 2012 #115

"The Arab states treat the Palestinians like shit." - But they don't bomb them or steal their stuff Scootaloo Nov 2012 #118

No its not Jordan and Lebanon. former9thward Nov 2012 #134

Didn't Egypt and Jordan occupy Palestine before Israel took over the occupation? ieoeja Nov 2012 #144

All good points. former9thward Nov 2012 #147

Well, considering the 2000 "offer" forbade any right of return to the Palestinian "state..." Scootaloo Nov 2012 #156

I'll trust Bill Clinton on the subject more than you. former9thward Nov 2012 #157

I'd suggest some research Scootaloo Nov 2012 #159

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+2 madrchsod Dec 2012 #177

israel has internal problems that will have to be dealt with. madrchsod Dec 2012 #178

I don't see peace on the horizon with current Israeli attitudes cpwm17 Dec 2012 #179

"the Arab states" are in no position to act independent of US policy.. Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #102

Congratulations! Hell Hath No Fury Nov 2012 #7

Rice is embarrassing herself LittleBlue Nov 2012 #8

Her true colors are shining through. Not just about this issue, but about who she is as a person.nt Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #11

so are yours, pal. MjolnirTime Nov 2012 #34

LOL, my NINE years of posts here versus your...LOL...your, what again? Flimsy quip? Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #36

Are you kidding? Just because Rice is under attack by the Repubs doesn't mean Chemisse Nov 2012 #75

They were apparent a long time ago. I was amazed to see how few remembered the polarizing sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #42

If you think this is about Rice BainsBane Nov 2012 #52

Rice is just holding the policy line, actually Scootaloo Nov 2012 #119

I really liked Susan Rice during the first Obama campaign... bunnies Nov 2012 #12

You might as well say you don't like Obama BainsBane Nov 2012 #53

I can't imagine what the Republicans have against her, she articulates business-as-usual just fine.. Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #18

The Rs are just 2naSalit Nov 2012 #30

I can't tell the difference between her speech and those of Bush's cronies LittleBlue Nov 2012 #33

This is her, she was always like this. I wonder why so few remembered why the Left always had sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #45

This is US policy BainsBane Nov 2012 #55

This is the best morality litmus test I know cpwm17 Nov 2012 #70

The Republicans hate her King_David Nov 2012 #47

Just another reason to not consider her as SOS, IMO. MessiahRp Nov 2012 #48

And what Ambassador to the UN would do anything different? BainsBane Nov 2012 #58

You're right, her ancestors ARE.... ReRe Nov 2012 #76

A question quakerboy Nov 2012 #153

Good. They deserve to have access to the ICC. bunnies Nov 2012 #9

expected but still excellent news stupidicus Nov 2012 #10

Caught this beautiful picture on Haaretz just a few minutes ago: Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #14

Omg thats so awesome!! darkangel218 Nov 2012 #23

Yes Jewish people want all that , however that pictured misguided Jew from King_David Nov 2012 #49

Maybe they just want to make peace? darkangel218 Nov 2012 #54

Who are you to label and value or devalue Jews? Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #57

Should be obvious shouldn't it? He is da KING! :P nt Bodhi BloodWave Nov 2012 #68

That group , The Naturei Karta King_David Nov 2012 #82

He's right leftynyc Nov 2012 #127

...Where their leader spoke AGAINST holocaust denial. Scootaloo Nov 2012 #120

I'm not a religious Jew, but who are to discount them? Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #161

Who am I ? King_David Dec 2012 #163

Great photo! Spazito Nov 2012 #24

Awesome, good for him. Ash_F Nov 2012 #40

I don't see a link on YouTube yet. You HAVE to see the video. She's like shriek-growling. Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #41

Here it is (video of Rice) subsuelo Nov 2012 #79

That is beautiful! I wish them peace, both the people of Palestine and the people of Israel. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #59

He has nothing to do with the people of Israel, King_David Dec 2012 #160

Good for him! Marrah_G Nov 2012 #65

He is not Israeli, King_David Dec 2012 #162

I wanna shake that guy's hand! Harry_Scrote Nov 2012 #141

This person is from Neturei Karta harrose Nov 2012 #152

sigh... Marrah_G Dec 2012 #176

K & R Scurrilous Nov 2012 #15

It's a start. AzDar Nov 2012 #16