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JDPriestly

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66. Any state can be legitimately criticized for certain of its actions,

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:14 AM

Dec 2012

but there are a lot of people on DU who think that Palestinians are saints who do nothing wrong. They do not understand the complexity of the situation of Israel which is surrounded by hostile countries and which has to maintain the security and a sense of security for its population. Israel cannot afford to allow its citizens to feel that they are vulnerable to attack. That is because of their strategically sensitive and very lonely geographical position.

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Anger as Hungary far-right leader demands lists of Jews [View all] ButterflyBlood Nov 2012 OP

OMG BainsBane Nov 2012 #1

When is the next election and how soon can this nut be voted out? nt kelliekat44 Nov 2012 #65

Gee, a quart of gasoline and a cliffordu Nov 2012 #2

Let me check the calendar. Beacool Nov 2012 #3

shit struggle4progress Nov 2012 #4

What the hell? Ash_F Nov 2012 #5

Are you fucking kidding me? Orrex Nov 2012 #6

Intolerance elbloggoZY27 Nov 2012 #7

They exist in every generation in every nation. liberalhistorian Nov 2012 #15

Maybe it's time... OnlinePoker Nov 2012 #8

Remember when Nixon The Wizard Nov 2012 #9

Yep... you gotta watch out for the Jews. harmonicon Nov 2012 #10

It sounds so shocking yet, I was reminded of iemitsu Nov 2012 #11

You wish the attitude of Marton Gyongyosi was confined to Hungary? Tansy_Gold Nov 2012 #51

Your wish is better than mine. iemitsu Nov 2012 #59

Learning has taken place Tansy_Gold Nov 2012 #60

And I am grateful. iemitsu Nov 2012 #61

Jim Crow JustAnotherGen Dec 2012 #71

No, our faces aren't clean in the context of our own history iemitsu Dec 2012 #73

What a disturbing article. Europe in 2012. David Zephyr Nov 2012 #12

The sad thing is such a list likely already exists. Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #13

They're probably compiling one; they try to screen their members via genetics tests. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2012 #31

You're assuming there's a genetic difference between Jews and the rest of humanity lunatica Nov 2012 #36

I'm not, the idiots in Jobbik are. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2012 #44

Wouldn't surprise me in the least. Bohunk68 Nov 2012 #35

That's a fascinating story lunatica Nov 2012 #38

A list like this is trivially easy to make nowadays. Xithras Nov 2012 #54

Far Right political parties on the rise.... NickP Nov 2012 #14

Where did they get this nut? This is dangerous and could cost Hungary tourists. get rid of him. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #16

Never go away, do they? Ken Burch Nov 2012 #17

For anybody considering a trip to Hungary, here's the Jobbik logo... Ken Burch Nov 2012 #18

FYI Old Union Guy Dec 2012 #76

First and foremost, Jobbik is an anti-communist, anti-secularist party. David__77 Nov 2012 #19

True. It is also ethno-nationalist, right-wing populist and anti-globalization. pampango Nov 2012 #25

The far-right is old school in Eastern Europe... leftlibdem420 Nov 2012 #20

Actually, it is NOT unmentioned. It's right in the excerpt posted. cali Nov 2012 #26

I don't know what outrages me more. iandhr Nov 2012 #21

History ahostett Nov 2012 #22

If he was American sackabanana Nov 2012 #23

When people on DU criticize Israel, they need to remember this. JDPriestly Nov 2012 #24

This is horrifying and we can never let it happen again Marrah_G Nov 2012 #40

no one is doubting anti semitism exists booley Nov 2012 #49

+1 peacebird Dec 2012 #77

The criticism of Israel is about Carolina Nov 2012 #50

Israel is geographically encircled by hostile nations and JDPriestly Dec 2012 #67

"the Palestinians are the ones who hold the power to change the situation" Carolina Dec 2012 #70

Your comparison does not work. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #72

right. it's more like apartheid South Africa or occupied east timor booley Dec 2012 #78

Except that Israel has the US as its friend and can negotiate JDPriestly Dec 2012 #79

thank you Carolina Dec 2012 #81

My analogy does hold Carolina Dec 2012 #82

If vilification of Jews for sport were a thing of the past, I might JDPriestly Dec 2012 #83

I am very critical of some of Israel's actions democrattotheend Dec 2012 #75

I fully agree when it comes to criticism of Israel's very existence LeftishBrit Nov 2012 #56

Any state can be legitimately criticized for certain of its actions, JDPriestly Dec 2012 #66

Couldn't have said it better democrattotheend Dec 2012 #74

my cousins in that region decamped last year. i would be looking to emigrate if i was jewish loli phabay Nov 2012 #27

No Need in 2012, King_David Nov 2012 #64

Thanks. That is why Israel has to be protected. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #80

Didnt the world already try this MFM008 Nov 2012 #28

how about a list of dangerous rightwing nutjobs Skittles Nov 2012 #29

A previous leader of that party was getting members gene-tested for "Jewish ancestry," too Posteritatis Nov 2012 #30

He probably believes the earth is 50 years old. n/t 2on2u Nov 2012 #32

Is a 'List of Muslims' any less offending? (n/t) Nictuku Nov 2012 #33

Where was that in the article? Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #34

didn't read the article (on dialup and it takes forever and a day) Bohunk68 Nov 2012 #37

and you would be wrong. he is not, according to the article, anti-Muslim cali Nov 2012 #42

Not the first time I've been in error. Bohunk68 Nov 2012 #45

Exactly. And thank you! David Zephyr Nov 2012 #55

Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #41

WHy does George Soros live in the US? AngryAmish Nov 2012 #39

What does that have to do with the article? UnrepentantLiberal Nov 2012 #46

He is a Hungarian Jew AngryAmish Nov 2012 #47

He has been a US citizen for many years LeftishBrit Nov 2012 #57

That is my point. He is here because of shiat like this. AngryAmish Nov 2012 #62

Now this is the kind of shit that needs to be stopped by the international community. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #43

so they aren't even going to pretend they aren't nazis booley Nov 2012 #48

That's exactly what I thought during the election season this year iemitsu Dec 2012 #69

Oh, we've never seen anything like this before! barnabas63 Nov 2012 #52

the shoes beside the Danube struggle4progress Nov 2012 #53

Ugh. Like Poland, Hungary hasn't changed as much as it might in certain respects. LeftishBrit Nov 2012 #58

Jesus. These idiots in Hungary and the Golden Dawn in Greece... Odin2005 Nov 2012 #63

It isn't just the far-right... Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #68

When bad things happen, we tend to be the scape goat at one point or another sakabatou Dec 2012 #84