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moniss

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16. You have to have
Thu Apr 18, 2024, 02:00 PM
Apr 2024

what's commonly referred to as a "better than arm's length" relationship regarding the transaction. For instance if you own two businesses and from one you only take $1 in pay and you have that business create a loan, zero interest and no repayment for 50 years, to you as owner of the other business in a large amount, say $1 million dollars, and you only claim a paycheck of $1 from that second business while you pay no taxes on the "loan" amount. Won't fly with the IRS. You are in control over both entities and all transactions.

If you had an independent board of directors for a publicly traded company could they legally approve a "loan" of some amount to a company officer? Yes under certain circumstances and there would still be the fiduciary responsibility to the stockholders to contend with. They would have to show the loan had a proper legal purpose and had no negative impact to the shareholders. That is a very general example and the details are what will always be the deciding factors as to legality/proper fiduciary conduct.

If you are a bunch of family members intertwined in various businesses etc. it gets really iffy about being able to have that "distance between interests and control" that it's all about.

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Why is it always private citizens? gab13by13 Apr 2024 #1
Obviously a lot of financial crimes go unpunished PatSeg Apr 2024 #5
"Why is it always private citizens?" BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #7
News Flash 2.0 gab13by13 Apr 2024 #11
You still aren't understanding how government agencies operate BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #18
who exactly wants that? quakerboy Apr 2024 #17
I sure as hell don't want that BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #19
One other thing gab13by13 Apr 2024 #2
But, but, but... according to his corrupt six... he's presumably... Justice matters. Apr 2024 #3
Two sets of rules and everyone's afraid to do anything bucolic_frolic Apr 2024 #31
Best to assume every transaction by Trump involves illegal activity. Doodley Apr 2024 #4
Loan was created by his Beautiful Mind? Captain Zero Apr 2024 #21
The reason being that when moniss Apr 2024 #6
What if the loan came from Trump to Trump? gab13by13 Apr 2024 #9
You have to have moniss Apr 2024 #16
Very informative response! GreenWave Apr 2024 #33
Or Putin to *Rump? ariadne0614 Apr 2024 #28
IRS Inspector General Michael Horowitz has taken action, gab13by13 Apr 2024 #8
IRS is under Treasury BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #10
My bad, gab13by13 Apr 2024 #13
IRS had nothing to do with those investigations - they were all DoJ. Ocelot II Apr 2024 #30
Kickin' Faux pas Apr 2024 #12
And get away with MotownPgh Apr 2024 #14
And no crime the DOJ isn't willing to look the other way for. onecaliberal Apr 2024 #20
Why hasn't the FBI/DOJ acted on this Miguelito Loveless Apr 2024 #15
Where has the IRS been ? republianmushroom Apr 2024 #22
IRS is woefully (and intentionally) underfunded and understaffed. Ocelot II Apr 2024 #32
I guess the "presidential immunity" defense doesn't apply here FakeNoose Apr 2024 #23
I've known about this bogus loan for years!! Grins Apr 2024 #24
Get in line, guys. Long list in front of you. You just got #9642 and they're still working on #37. Wonder Why Apr 2024 #25
Or more like this BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #27
Mr. tRump seems like he'd have pretty good knowledge about phony loans Blue Owl Apr 2024 #26
Almost sounds like a shelf registration for loans bucolic_frolic Apr 2024 #29
This might ruin his reputation. Swede Apr 2024 #34
Donny's favorite game isn't really golf--it's this: tanyev Apr 2024 #35
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