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BumRushDaShow

(170,963 posts)
65. More need to educate
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 08:54 PM
Apr 2024
No one is claiming he's immune. It's just being consistent.


The MSM media narratives have NEVER been "consistent". They continually focus on who would take votes away from Biden and ignore who would take votes away from 45.

It was to the point where they insisted, all the way up until about last week, that "Bob" (RFK Jr), despite being antivax and sympathizing with the J6 insurrectionists (which would attract 45-followers, is a case in point) would pull votes from Biden. They finally conceded that the opposite would happen.

Trump barely did worse than Biden in his primary and yet everyone is jumping for joy in this thread like it somehow means he's bleeding out support.

The reality is that if we're setting parameters on what constitutes bad showings, we're also adding Biden to that list because there have been a handful of states - including some important ones - where he's faced a fairly sizable opposing vote.

My point? I think people are reading too much into the primaries. They're not relevant. They don't prove anything. Trump likely winning Pennsylvania with 84% means nothing more or less than Biden winning it with 88%.


And MY POINT has been to look at what was pounded out by the pundits over the past couple election cycles about "enthusiasm". And when it comes to the GOP and what is obviously a waning enthusiasm like in yesterday's election here in PA, that is ignored. But they will pummel any Democrat that had such a result.

And if you think Trump received a huge vote against him, you've got to concede Biden kinda did too. 123,757 Democrats so far have voted for someone other than Biden. 157,136 Republicans voted for someone other than Trump. Not that dissimilar. If it's a problem for Trump, it's a problem for Biden.

But I don't think it's relevant either way.


Not sure where you are getting the numbers but here are the results here in PA (screenshot below taken earlier today) - https://www.electionreturns.pa.gov/



68,564 voted "against Biden" (and for Phillips) here in PA, NOT "123,757".
157,126 voted "against 45" (and for Haley) here in PA.

That's it. And using primaries as 'gotcha' kinda narratives I think can go both ways. Trust me. I didn't like it when the media ran up the flag pole this idea that Biden was dead to rights in Michigan because 145,000 Michigan Democrats voted for someone other than Biden.


It's not "it" when you have a different set of numbers than the state of PA has on its website. The numbers have updated a bit since the screenshot was taken (by a couple hundred votes) but not enough to come up with you claim. Remember that PA is a "closed primary" state so no "unaffiliated" can vote in our primary.

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Let's just hope Mz Pip Apr 2024 #1
I am betting two to one that she endorses him Walleye Apr 2024 #2
The only Republican who won't endorse Trump will be Liz Cheney. sop Apr 2024 #4
Like Cheney, I doubt Christie will endorse. emulatorloo Apr 2024 #50
Nor would Kinzinger BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #54
Right? LuvLoogie Apr 2024 #19
or worse, I could see him offering her his VP slot, and her accepting it. I don't trust any republican. Power is the JohnSJ Apr 2024 #11
I don't believe she'd take it JohnnyRingo Apr 2024 #12
You might be right, but I wouldn't put it past her. For his deplorable party, it would represent a "unity" ticket, with JohnSJ Apr 2024 #15
For those who watch morning cable news gab13by13 Apr 2024 #3
MSM Old Okie Apr 2024 #48
I've always had confidence in the people of Pennsylvania Mysterian Apr 2024 #5
We have a huge Senate race here, gab13by13 Apr 2024 #7
i'm in south western pa et tu Apr 2024 #8
No Dems will vote for McCormack, we need to worry about the independents though FakeNoose Apr 2024 #29
Hopefully abortion and labor will get the Dems and Indies out for Casey... Wounded Bear Apr 2024 #30
Yes one would think so FakeNoose Apr 2024 #37
Trump recently endorsed McCormick Deminpenn Apr 2024 #42
McCormick is a carpet-bagger like Oz BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #58
Yes indeed FakeNoose Apr 2024 #66
He's one of the "business" types that you normally see running for office in Jersey BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #67
We only had one "flip" of an election from (D) - (R) since 1988 BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #10
Can Trump win edhopper Apr 2024 #6
PA has 19 electotal votes so that would be the factor BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #14
Yes. Pretty Fly Apr 2024 #22
A couple weeks ago the Pennsylvania GOP was gloating about a surge in voter registrations. tanyev Apr 2024 #9
"Looks like a lot of the new registrations signed up to vote against their candidate. " BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #18
Hoping that's a good sign for us for November IronLionZion Apr 2024 #13
Bravo! Teach the young to be liberal minded when they're young onetexan Apr 2024 #16
This is a tricky narrative. Pretty Fly Apr 2024 #17
"Biden is doing about five-points better (88% to 83%) tha Trump there." BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #21
I don't think there were any polls of the PA primary race. Pretty Fly Apr 2024 #23
"I don't think there were any polls of the PA primary race." BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #27
Did you actually read what I put? Pretty Fly Apr 2024 #28
Do you even know how to sort a spreadsheet? BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #36
Do you understand what recent means? Pretty Fly Apr 2024 #44
You do realize that when it comes to "state" polls BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #46
Which is exactly why I said your comparison is apples to oranges. Pretty Fly Apr 2024 #60
To address BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #61
Since you refuse to read my posts, I am going to pay you the same curtesy. I ain't reading that. Pretty Fly Apr 2024 #63
How about reading your original reply title BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #64
Go to the pa elections website Deminpenn Apr 2024 #45
I live on that site BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #49
Thank you BRDS - I've been saying the same thing since last year FakeNoose Apr 2024 #70
Those statistics are getting a little mangled whopis01 Apr 2024 #32
The point IS BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #40
If 10-16% is considered a big protest vote, then it's happening to Biden too. Pretty Fly Apr 2024 #47
READ WHAT I WROTE HERE BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #51
No one is claiming he's immune. It's just being consistent. Pretty Fly Apr 2024 #59
More need to educate BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #65
The MSM, along with the majority of polls and political wags cannot parse that this will be a very different election. Ford_Prefect Apr 2024 #20
I wholeheartedly agree - this is an election like no other FakeNoose Apr 2024 #39
Not that it's critically important at this time, but........... jaxexpat Apr 2024 #24
"Not Trump" does NOT equal "political heavyweight" DFW Apr 2024 #25
At this time, I think the media has determined Haley is the heir apparent to the GOP dynasty.........of disasters. jaxexpat Apr 2024 #43
There have "been signs" that Trump is "still struggling to garner support" Rocknation Apr 2024 #26
Hey, any article that starts with "Donald Trump suffers" is GREAT. Novara Apr 2024 #31
156,950 Republicans voted against Donald Trump In yesterday's GOP primary in the battleground state of Pennsylvania LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2024 #33
The votes for Nikki Haley are a good sign FakeNoose Apr 2024 #34
Generally, it's hard to win the WH with less than 90% in ones own party base... Wounded Bear Apr 2024 #35
Can you imagine the headlines if Biden was only pulling 83% of the vote? NT Happy Hoosier Apr 2024 #38
it's worse than that for sleepy don quakerboy Apr 2024 #41
I think this exaggerates his loss of support in the GOP space. LuvLoogie Apr 2024 #52
If that were the case BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #53
Meh LudwigPastorius Apr 2024 #55
"best that could be hoped for is that they sit at home come election day." BumRushDaShow Apr 2024 #57
PA is tired of him PennRalphie Apr 2024 #56
Imagine that, Dotard J Chump insults and threatens Hassler Apr 2024 #62
Kudos to your niece! She ROCKS!!! calimary Apr 2024 #68
Why on Earth do they keep telling us it's going to be close? wryter2000 Apr 2024 #69
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