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Voltaire2

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7. Lol. In Tesla groups there is consistent whining

Reply to Caribbeans (Original post)

Fri Apr 26, 2024, 04:52 PM

Apr 26

about over regulation by the NHTSA.

The NHTSA and Tesla agreed on a recall that updated the monitoring software to be more aggressive and strict about driver presence.

There is data missing here. Maybe it is in the article but I doubt it. One needs to understand the total vehicle miles operated using FSD, total vehicle miles using AP (autopilot and FSD are quite different), serious accidents in each category, and the same data for generic cars not using tesla av systems. The generic data is something like 1.33 fatalities per million miles. The relevant Tesla data is what is missing.

Suppose, for example, Tesla FSD has 0.3 fatalities per million miles. Are we still outraged?

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Tesla's Autopilot and Full Self-Driving linked to hundreds of crashes, dozens of deaths [View all] Caribbeans Apr 26 OP

I was crossing the street one day and noticed this tesla driver texting on his phone and his hands were not on the kimbutgar Apr 26 #1

Wow! Where were you - big city, etc? erronis Apr 26 #14

San Francisco kimbutgar Apr 26 #18

What Big EFFING Faux pas Apr 26 #2

When this article gets around ....'THE END OF TESLA FOR EVER"...(see paragraph below) Stuart G Apr 26 #3

But but tesla is such a wonderful vehicle...the trucks too....NOT PortTack Apr 26 #4

Elon needs to be on the receiving end of many class-action lawsuits. tanyev Apr 26 #5

The driver is ultimately responsible. RipVanWinkle Apr 26 #6

I have a hard time imagining that I would like the feature as it is now. whopis01 Apr 26 #13

Lol. In Tesla groups there is consistent whining Voltaire2 Apr 26 #7

Yeah, right. And let's ask muskrat how much he thinks a pedestrian's life is worth. erronis Apr 26 #15

Cars kill thousands of people every year. Voltaire2 Apr 26 #20

If you had the NHTSA moniss Apr 26 #21

Sure, you can get as specific as you want. Voltaire2 Apr 26 #23

Fatalities per mile is meaningless moniss Apr 26 #26

IMO While Elon runs that satellite program they will be reluctant to go after TESLA because reasons and the Ultra-rich. Ford_Prefect Apr 26 #8

Easy. Fine the shit out of negligent corporations and prosecute the decision makers. erronis Apr 26 #16

Right you are and Eron moniss Apr 26 #22

I saw a live Tesla truck last week, it looked like a stainless steel doc03 Apr 26 #9

Screw the magats and whatever their lizard brains think. truthisfreedom Apr 26 #12

If Tesla is driving Tesla should be liable. bullimiami Apr 26 #10

But the owner/(human)driver agreed to the Terms and Conditions, etc., etc. erronis Apr 26 #17

They recalled the Ford Pinto after 27 deaths JoseBalow Apr 26 #11

Excellent example! erronis Apr 26 #19

Kick dalton99a Apr 26 #24

How does this compare to human driven cars? elias7 Apr 26 #25

After an alert and discussion with the hosts, locking. Emile Apr 26 #27