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JT45242

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13. Sure seems like a clear solicitation of a bribe to me ...
Thu May 9, 2024, 08:07 AM
May 2024

Someone had to put that on tape. THat is beyond lobbying and a clear quid pro quo -- give me a million dollars and I will do X,Y, and Z.

That seems like pretty straightforward statement of the law

From Justice manual website https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-834-intent-parties#:~:text=%C2%A7%20201%2C%20which%20prohibit%20the,or%20receipt%20of%20unlawful%20gratuities.
The public employee bribery statutes provide a useful analogy. Subsections (b) and (c) of 18 U.S.C. § 201, which prohibit the offering or soliciting of bribes to or by Federal officials, require a showing of an intended quid pro quo. Subsections (f) and (g) of 18 U.S.C. § 201, on the other hand, prohibit the giving or receipt of unlawful gratuities. Subsections (f) and (g) of Section 201 do not require proof of a quid pro quo or unlawful influence, but require the government to prove merely that something of value was given to a public official for or because of an official act that the official performed or will perform. See United States v. Niederberger, 580 F.2d 63, 68-69 (3d Cir.), cert. denied, 439 U.S. 980 (1978); United States v. Evans, 572 F.2d 455, 481 (5th Cir.), cert. denied, 439 U.S. 870 (1978); United States v. Brewster, 506 F.2d 62, 82 (D.C. Cir. 1974). In essence, a gratuity is given either before or after the f act, not to influence a decision but to reward a person for making or having made a decision that would have been made in any event. See United States v. Previte, 648 F.2d 73, 82 (1st Cir. 1981).

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Retaliatory president syndrome Hope22 May 2024 #1
Yet the MSM will call them "conservatives." gab13by13 May 2024 #2
So frustrating... Hope22 May 2024 #6
But without the media how else would we be reminded the Stormy Daniels is a porn star every time her name comes up? jaxexpat May 2024 #22
When Trump becomes the "embattled former president" Pinback May 2024 #36
Promises Unkept modrepub May 2024 #5
He's been pretty effective at pushing women back to the caves. Hope22 May 2024 #9
Plus even if he *could* deliver, it's moot if he doesn't win the election, despite the billion. thesquanderer May 2024 #17
you've got it NJCher May 2024 #24
didn't tillerson call him a "fckin' idiot?" rampartc May 2024 #38
yes, he did NJCher May 2024 #39
Note that the "US is building first new nuclear warhead in decades." mahatmakanejeeves May 2024 #44
It won't be through incompetence alone. NanaCat May 2024 #30
Any stupid person or corp that gives TSF money is giving it to TSF. Nothing is coming back. Traurigkeit May 2024 #40
Being greedy while smart Lemonwurst May 2024 #3
Trump saved them a lot more than a billion with his tax cuts. okaawhatever May 2024 #16
Typical repug playbook "What do you want me to do Big Biz?" KS Toronado May 2024 #4
I got a stomach ache reading this. Diamond_Dog May 2024 #7
Likewise, bribing the megarich for his desire for power. onetexan May 2024 #10
And any Biden climate change initiatives go right down the drain. Diamond_Dog May 2024 #12
Bribery. America for sale, just give the Not so Supreme Justices an RV and their spouse a job. Bluethroughu May 2024 #8
Was Scott Sheffield there? He got caught colluding with OPEC to keep oil prices jacked up underpants May 2024 #11
Sure seems like a clear solicitation of a bribe to me ... JT45242 May 2024 #13
I think it would be a clear solicitation of a bribe if he were actually in office... thesquanderer May 2024 #20
I thought at first they were complaining because they'd PatSeg May 2024 #14
Notice the Post was too chicken shit to include the list of attendees. Hotler May 2024 #15
Their source may not have known or given everyone's name. intheflow May 2024 #23
The article said there was a list handed out and the names the Post has are from that list. Hotler May 2024 #25
Fair enough. intheflow May 2024 #26
This was done to protect the identity of the leakers. mahatmakanejeeves May 2024 #28
Greedflation is a stealthier way for oligarchs to get Republicans elected. Hermit-The-Prog May 2024 #18
Isn't this illegal? JMCKUSICK May 2024 #19
Seems like it oughta be...nt RussBLib May 2024 #35
The circle of GOP cash: Give tax cuts to billionaires & corporations... CaptainTruth May 2024 #21
Yes, it's called an "off-the-shelf" money laundering scheme PSPS May 2024 #29
Republican leader: "Screw America and the childrens' future. Give me more money." BoRaGard May 2024 #27
WEll, that will help in the Climate Change battle won't it? 🥵 walkingman May 2024 #31
We're not serious about battling it NOW. Nuclear power is the only true answer. oldsoftie May 2024 #42
What's the most maddening of Big Oil's behaviour NanaCat May 2024 #32
This is how capitalism buys out democracy Farmer-Rick May 2024 #33
Stressful to process the very real possiblity Enoki33 May 2024 #34
TFG is not being subtle LetMyPeopleVote May 2024 #37
Like it or not, gas prices are going to be a BIG factor in the election oldsoftie May 2024 #41
Interesting one of them leaked it. BlueKota May 2024 #43
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Has a quid pro quo - maybe better known as a bribe - BobTheSubgenius May 2024 #46
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