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In reply to the discussion: Israel settlement bid a 'fatal blow' to peace: Ban [View all]azurnoir
(45,850 posts)63. okay a right wing Israeli news paper and a gross misreprentation of Gideon Levy's so called retracti
on the thread you linked to done because the poster thought more than the first paragraph was hidden behind a pay wall but here is the rest of Gideon Levey's 'retraction'
The Dialog poll commissioned by the Yisraela Goldblum Fund, whose results were published in Haaretz last week, unearthed extremely serious and disturbing findings. It sketched a troubling portrait of a nationalistic and racist Israeli society. This isn't the first survey to demonstrate such a trend and, unfortunately, it won't be the last. The Hebrew headline of the news article describing the survey results ("Most Israelis support an apartheid regime in Israel" ) was misleading. Most Israelis do support apartheid, but only if the occupied territories are annexed; and most Israelis oppose such annexation. Haaretz explained this in a clarification published in the Hebrew edition on Sunday.
The article itself, which I wrote, did not contain any mistakes. It provided a precise and detailed description of the survey results. In my analysis of the survey, which appeared as a separate article, there was a single sentence that did not accurately represent the poll results and contradicted what I had written in the news piece a short time beforehand. My sin was to write: "The majority doesn't want Arabs to vote for the Knesset, Arab neighbors at home or Arab students at school."
The truth, as I wrote in the news piece, is different: "Just" 33 percent of the respondents said they don't want Arabs to vote in parliamentary elections, "just" 42 percent wouldn't want an Arab neighbor, and about the same proportion said it would bother them if there were an Arab student in their child's class. Not a majority - just a (large ) portion of Israelis espouse these frightening views. Cold comfort.
Imagine a similar survey in France: A third of the French don't want Jews to be eligible to vote and nearly half don't want a Jewish neighbor or a Jewish student in their child's class. The right-wing propagandists who are currently causing a ruckus about my mistake would be among the first to shout "anti-Semitism." But for us, the Jews, it's allowed.
The article itself, which I wrote, did not contain any mistakes. It provided a precise and detailed description of the survey results. In my analysis of the survey, which appeared as a separate article, there was a single sentence that did not accurately represent the poll results and contradicted what I had written in the news piece a short time beforehand. My sin was to write: "The majority doesn't want Arabs to vote for the Knesset, Arab neighbors at home or Arab students at school."
The truth, as I wrote in the news piece, is different: "Just" 33 percent of the respondents said they don't want Arabs to vote in parliamentary elections, "just" 42 percent wouldn't want an Arab neighbor, and about the same proportion said it would bother them if there were an Arab student in their child's class. Not a majority - just a (large ) portion of Israelis espouse these frightening views. Cold comfort.
Imagine a similar survey in France: A third of the French don't want Jews to be eligible to vote and nearly half don't want a Jewish neighbor or a Jewish student in their child's class. The right-wing propagandists who are currently causing a ruckus about my mistake would be among the first to shout "anti-Semitism." But for us, the Jews, it's allowed.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/errors-and-omissions-excepted.premium-1.472852
thanks for reminding me I had all but forgotten about that
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Israel's government was never interested in peace. It's always been a land grab since at least the
craigmatic
Dec 2012
#1
I may be naive, but I believe if the government turned around and Labor won...
Poll_Blind
Dec 2012
#3
Europeans apparently are no longer taking their lead from the US. Several countries have
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#148
see comment #63 for Gideon Levy's 'retraction' which was not a retraction of the entire poll as you
azurnoir
Dec 2012
#64
It's already been explained to you several times. I hope you read it this time...
Violet_Crumble
Dec 2012
#73
okay a right wing Israeli news paper and a gross misreprentation of Gideon Levy's so called retracti
azurnoir
Dec 2012
#63
The term antisemitism applies only to Jews,and not other semitic peoples. Let me help you out here ,
King_David
Dec 2012
#26
If he was truly anti semitic he probably wouldn't be for the progressive's either.
go west young man
Dec 2012
#18
Cheap shot accusations of anti-semitism. How boring. And how predictable.
Comrade Grumpy
Dec 2012
#44
Unlike you rabid Zionists, I don't falsely accuse others of being racists.
Comrade Grumpy
Dec 2012
#96
'But, they are all united in their hate of Arabs and especially Palestinians'
King_David
Dec 2012
#128
Same here. It's only a matter of time before Israel alienates the majority of Americans.
Walk away
Dec 2012
#112
Just a hint. You can get banned for that, so you might want to edit it. Here's the TOS:
freshwest
Dec 2012
#52
I don't think the word 'Zionism' is the problem. It's the '...Zionist hold sway over our government'
freshwest
Dec 2012
#140
Except that Palestinians can't vote so it's kind of a sucky "democracy" for them...nt
Walk away
Dec 2012
#114
Read somewhere that Israel is now witholding 100 Million of the Palestinians Government money...
Xolodno
Dec 2012
#38
It doesn't change the fact that the Israelis are an invading army occupying the land
geek tragedy
Dec 2012
#85
Israel rejected the 67 borders as a starting point for negotiations. They are a dead letter.
geek tragedy
Dec 2012
#98
Well, Israel is currently occupying Syrian territory. Did we forget about that? Been for decades.
The Stranger
Dec 2012
#109
For what? They're not going to get their land back, even you make that clear.
The Stranger
Dec 2012
#153
The Sinai was 30 years ago. That's a couple decades more than enough time for Israel to withdraw
The Stranger
Dec 2012
#157
Obama needs to cut off all aid until Israel agrees to a PERMANENT moratorium on settlement expansion
Ken Burch
Dec 2012
#69
They were only announcing what they had on the books before the current conflict
Hydra
Dec 2012
#117