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14. The President doesn't actually have a clearance. The job is all the authorization they need.
Fri May 31, 2024, 05:31 PM
May 2024

Presidents don't go through any of the processes to receive a formal clearance and they never receive one; the theory is that since almost all classification is done by the order of the President, not by law (except for some nuclear weapons stuff), the sitting President has absolute authority to deal with classified material as they see fit.

It's also why it's relatively easy to deny former office holders their "courtesy clearance*", the current guy just has to stop sending the briefs.

* - ex-Presidents generally have access to the briefings and other hush hush stuff, so they can more effectively give advice and counsel to the current Executive, but AFAIK it's just a perk extended by the former folx.

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But while hes been indicted for harboring classified documents and espionage, Karadeniz May 2024 #1
"should not be" InstantGratification May 2024 #24
They absolutely know that the guy at the top is way more than compromised; he has sold intel and will again. ancianita Jun 2024 #36
I'm sorry, I wasn't clear enough what I was speaking about InstantGratification Jun 2024 #38
I hear you. But since intel to candidates is "custom," they can just skip the custom now for good legal reasons. ancianita Jun 2024 #41
An error on the Founders drafting. Missed that one. Was probably unfathomable until Cheetolini. nt Evolve Dammit Jun 2024 #50
Yikes! Good Grief! He's already jeopardized our national security and that of our allies - no second chances!!! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2024 #31
When did he get charged with espionage? Groundhawg Jun 2024 #55
One of his charges falls under the espionage act...wish i could be more specific, Karadeniz Jun 2024 #60
I Can't find where he is charged with espionage. Groundhawg Jun 2024 #61
31 criminal charges for unlawfully keeping documents about national defense. Karadeniz Jun 2024 #62
I know he did bad things Groundhawg Jun 2024 #63
"Under the espionage act." He showed some document at bedminster that Karadeniz Jun 2024 #65
Intelligence briefings should cease after a year as the new President should be up to date by then. cstanleytech May 2024 #2
Perhaps he'll nod off. n/t Harker May 2024 #3
"a custom dating back to 1952" SalamanderSleeps May 2024 #4
Assume that any useful intel will be passed straight on to Putin. Doodley May 2024 #5
But he's a Republican - so the Intel community would be ok with it peppertree Jun 2024 #29
He is a convicted felon. He should no longer possess any security clearance Scalded Nun May 2024 #6
The President doesn't actually have a clearance. The job is all the authorization they need. sir pball May 2024 #14
Yes, and he can, and did, override the rejections that his relatives received. PSPS May 2024 #23
They should put a piece of fake info in... C Moon May 2024 #7
I wonder how much they withheld when he was in office NYC Liberal May 2024 #20
I'm sure that was done at some point early in tfg's occupancy. erronis May 2024 #21
Absolutely. Feed Trump BS, but plausible intel and see if Putin reacts. OAITW r.2.0 Jun 2024 #56
So Vlad still has an open pipeline of intel. keithbvadu2 May 2024 #8
trump pulled John Brennan's security clearance out of spite Bayard May 2024 #9
Yes. And Brennan fought back. ancianita Jun 2024 #46
In 2020 Trump did everything he could to obstruct and delay President-elect Biden's transition to the WH. sop May 2024 #10
So if it's a "custom" and not a law, then don't frigging allow it. hadEnuf May 2024 #11
That way he doesn't have to wait to sell national secrets. Turbineguy May 2024 #12
Dumb his briefing down to one page per day, like they used to do RainCaster May 2024 #13
And do it in crayon! Enter stage left May 2024 #25
Nonsense ScratchCat May 2024 #15
Agree...didn't President Biden rescind the now convicted felon security briefings a few months into 2021? PortTack Jun 2024 #28
fine. make them so detailed and complex he will not read them. nt Javaman May 2024 #16
Despite the fact he'll try to monetize everything he hears. You forgot that one, NBC. paleotn May 2024 #17
SHIT! I wouldn't want him anywhere near classified documents. Firestorm49 May 2024 #18
Maybe they can pat him down and make sure he has no recording devices on him.............. turbinetree May 2024 #19
It's also customary for a president to release their tax forms. Talitha May 2024 #22
Convicted felon who also stole classified documents gets more classified information. Irish_Dem May 2024 #26
Intel between TSF and Putin? gab13by13 May 2024 #27
I doubt they'll let him in on oasis Jun 2024 #30
They'll probably give him a bunch of garbage to feed to Pooty mahina Jun 2024 #32
Can't see this scenario happening. EndlessWire Jun 2024 #33
Agreed, it really is absurd mahina Jun 2024 #34
That right there is a "custom" that should stop given the People of the United States v Trump documents case. Just stop. ancianita Jun 2024 #35
Agreed 💯 benfranklin1776 Jun 2024 #37
Oh yes, let's give the criminal access to intelligence briefings...🤬 gembaby1 Jun 2024 #39
We never seem to learn. RexLipton Jun 2024 #40
Are you kidding me??!!?? Owens Jun 2024 #42
It disgusts me that someone who stole classified documents critical to our national security iluvtennis Jun 2024 #43
Disgusting & DownriverDem Jun 2024 #44
He can hustle the intel to pay his legal fees. Sneederbunk Jun 2024 #45
Feed him a mix of truth and bullshit orangecrush Jun 2024 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2024 #48
It is stupid but we always do it. Makes sense. twodogsbarking Jun 2024 #49
That's absurd duckworth969 Jun 2024 #51
It's also "customary"... Wuddles440 Jun 2024 #52
Very, very, very bad idea. I don't care about precedent. These are uncharted waters and a coup-maker again. Evolve Dammit Jun 2024 #53
Seems we have no "guardrails" to stop this insanity. Evolve Dammit Jun 2024 #54
Ridiculous dai13sy Jun 2024 #57
Putin keeps his intel supply pipeline flowing. keithbvadu2 Jun 2024 #58
Excuse me, but that is insane. LudwigPastorius Jun 2024 #59
if there is no law requiring this there is no reason to do it prodigitalson Jun 2024 #64
MAKES NO SENSE. Cha Jun 2024 #66
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