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onenote

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21. blue laws are inevitably arbitrary and unfair
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:57 PM
Dec 2012

As others have said, the reason more and more stores open on Thanksgiving is that there is enough demand from shoppers to justify it. Moreover, a law that bars some businesses from operating on Thanksgiving, but not others is inherently arbitrary. Should grocery stores be required to close? Many do, but others stay open for some portion of the day, often making it possible for people to "rescue" their Thanksgiving meal. What about drug stores? Obviously they should be allowed to stay open since the unexpected need for medical supplies does not disappear on Thanksgiving. But most drug stores sell other things -- a lot of the same things one finds in other stores -- so should they be allowed to be open but other stores selling the same types of items must close? What about movie theaters-- because of Superstorm Sandy, my family ended up having Thanksgiving dinner with friends on the Sunday before Thanksgiving. On Thanksgiving, my wife and I cooked ourselves an early dinner and then went to the movies. Gas stations are an obvious exception, but they often sell food stuffs and other things one might purchase at another type of store.
If its okay to buy batteries at a grocery store, a drug store, or a gas station on Thanksgiving, why should Radio Shack have to close?

If its about the workers and their families, why do the workers at Wal Mart or Macy's or some other clothing or department store be more "protected" than workers at other types of business establishments?

I grew up in a state that had Sunday closing blue laws and I hated them. I had an uncle who was an observant Jew and he had a shoe store. To honor his religious beliefs, he would stay closed on Saturday. But by law, he also had to close on Sunday, giving his competitors one more day to do business than he had. These laws laughably were upheld in the 60s by the courts based on the fiction that they were not religious in nature but were intended to ensure that workers had a day off. But a law that says you can only be open six days a week without specifying which day you must close would accomplish that goal. It was also argued that it was important for society that there be a common "uniform" day of rest -- but as noted, these laws were and continue to be riddled with exceptions making them anything but "uniform." There is no rational basis for mandating that car dealership be closed on Sundays or that alcohol not be sold on Sundays --two of the more common remaining "blue laws" found in many jurisdictions.

The world has changed since the era of blue laws. We are more spread out, more mobile, more flexible in when, how, and where we work. You can shut down stores, but with the internet, you can't shut down commerce. Forcing brick and mortar businesses to close simply makes no sense. In a diverse society, not everyone celebrates Thanksgiving in some traditional Norman Rockwell way, and trying to turn back the clock with silly laws will not change that.

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Not such a bad idea. The old "blue laws" may have been too restictive, but... TreasonousBastard Dec 2012 #1
Can't cities do this? Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #3
Sure they can. Paramus NJ is shut down on Sundays and has been for years... TreasonousBastard Dec 2012 #38
wow. what a dumb ass.... bowens43 Dec 2012 #2
Missouri was one of the later states to eliminate blue laws liberal N proud Dec 2012 #4
The only solution for this is for people not to shop... cynatnite Dec 2012 #5
True, but now they make it an incentive Sweet Freedom Dec 2012 #37
Stupid idea dbackjon Dec 2012 #6
Good for him. Arkana Dec 2012 #7
Grocerie Stores Hayabusa Dec 2012 #19
gas stations? the power company? the gas company? the water company? drug stores? onenote Dec 2012 #24
Group Homes HockeyMom Dec 2012 #27
I dont understand. Why? nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #35
My Wife Is A 25 1ProudAtheist Dec 2012 #8
What a great idea. I think we should go even farther. Lets have a Freedom day and force everyone rhett o rick Dec 2012 #36
Think of it as an extension of labor laws tinrobot Dec 2012 #9
Or say that every worker has the right to negotiate a rate for the day muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #14
What makes "retail" workers more special than other workers? onenote Dec 2012 #25
As Jon Stewart said last night, look out Halloween. truthisfreedom Dec 2012 #10
Good. Nt xchrom Dec 2012 #11
Everything old is new again. Remember when all businesses were closed on holidays, and on Sundays? jonesgirl Dec 2012 #12
that was back in the day barbtries Dec 2012 #16
I was a youngster then. It goes to show how much Wall Street has damaged America, and that everyone jonesgirl Dec 2012 #18
The only thing worse than a pro-Corporate politician... randome Dec 2012 #13
wasting time imo barbtries Dec 2012 #15
Good for him. rosesaylavee Dec 2012 #17
really? barbtries Dec 2012 #20
Christmas is technically for Christians ErikJ Dec 2012 #22
Yes, I think it's a good thing. rosesaylavee Dec 2012 #41
blue laws are inevitably arbitrary and unfair onenote Dec 2012 #21
I am for this also. I do not shop on Thanksgiving. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #23
What if you're not thankful, and your friends are dicks and your family is dead? Atman Dec 2012 #28
The government has the right to enforce a day of respite JDPriestly Dec 2012 #30
Then impose a limit on the number of days or hours that people can be required to work onenote Dec 2012 #32
Labor Day would be fine. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #39
But as a practical matter, many of us are speechless animals. Atman Dec 2012 #33
So every American has to believe in the same traditions? Atman Dec 2012 #26
REMEMBER THE VALUES: family is more important than shopping, RIGHT? Yupy Dec 2012 #29
re:Missouri Lawmaker Wants Stores Closed for Thanksgiving allan01 Dec 2012 #31
We allow idiots to buy guns anytime but we will not allow shopping on Thanksgiving? rhett o rick Dec 2012 #34
I would support this ButterflyBlood Dec 2012 #40
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