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jtuck004

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29. Bumper stickers notwithstanding, there are a lot of proud racists in Arizona.
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 12:11 PM
Dec 2012

I wouldn't want my kid dying there, hateful bastards. And with brown skin, I suspect the chances are higher, and only the most naive person would think otherwise. Kind of like people ignore the beat downs and prison we subject black people to at a far higher rate for people with black skin in many other places.

But what caught my attention was this immediate rush to judgement against the parents, as if people in authority always know what's best - like Congress. That's a broad brush attack as well, without anyone knowing the circumstances. I tend to give parents more leeway than the people around them, just because they had more college or better opportunities or something, people who have their own agenda to protect. Especially with a kid that sick.

I look at the debate over abortion, with all the people thinking they know better than a woman, who is undergoing a horrendous internal issue, an issue they feel the person obviously can't handle without them sticking their nose in it and making it worse. Here we have parents with a gravely ill daughter - I suspect they didn't come to this decision lightly, and I am not all that sure they were incorrect..

And, just because the hospital is a nonprofit doesn't mean they won't ruin the finances of people who show up there - Mexico might well be a far better option for them, given they are more humane about health care in my experience.

But I don't know, not there, was just throwing out potential scenarios other than the one where the parents are wrong - there's enough of that already, it seems.

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If she dies, I hope the parents are tried for first degree murder. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2012 #1
Maybe she was gonna die anyway, and now she can do it around friends and jtuck004 Dec 2012 #2
aren't doctors making decisions here, also couldn't they move her to a different hospital ? JI7 Dec 2012 #4
Maybe the doctors aren't the important one here. Maybe it's the patient. Btw, Dad jtuck004 Dec 2012 #7
couldn't they do that without removing her in this way, plus don't doctors JI7 Dec 2012 #8
They can email her records. And we don't know how she was treated b4 this, though jtuck004 Dec 2012 #10
That's a very fucked up accusation against Arizona medical care. Citations needed. n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #34
No they aren't. Racists are everywhere, and I don't need a citation for that, jtuck004 Dec 2012 #37
You made a claim that Arizona hospitals are providing care levels based on race. PavePusher Dec 2012 #38
The doctors have not filed any papers to take legal custody away from the parents. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #14
i'm referring to comments about the people who run the state JI7 Dec 2012 #24
Good point!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2012 #5
I agree. I think that's exactly what her parents are thinking about - the quality TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #16
PCH is a not for profit hospital FreedomRain Dec 2012 #26
The phrase "not-for-profit" is a technical one. It does not mean that the hospital does not AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #28
Bumper stickers notwithstanding, there are a lot of proud racists in Arizona. jtuck004 Dec 2012 #29
If you have information showing racism in Arizona medical care, please show it here. PavePusher Dec 2012 #35
Here's an idea. No. Unless you have evidence indicating it wasn't. jtuck004 Dec 2012 #36
You made a specific assertion/insinuation. PavePusher Dec 2012 #39
This country manufactured racism. It pervades the whole place with a stench. jtuck004 Dec 2012 #40
Post hoc ergo prompter hoc. LanternWaste Dec 2012 #42
Nice wiki entry. Wrong site? n/t jtuck004 Dec 2012 #43
Maybe they blame the hospital for the infection that cost her an arm. McCamy Taylor Dec 2012 #3
Because there's only one hospital in AZ. (nt) jeff47 Dec 2012 #6
do we know if these parents are religious in any way ? JI7 Dec 2012 #9
Sounds like they're concerned about the bill. Maybe TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #11
but couldn't they do that without walking out the way they did ? JI7 Dec 2012 #18
It's the wrong way to go, obviously. This child had an infection TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #20
Maybe the child is dying anyway Chemisse Dec 2012 #12
if this is the case I understand the action lunasun Dec 2012 #19
That was my first thought Hekate Dec 2012 #23
I know of several cases where parents have removed their children Dawson Leery Dec 2012 #13
The story is only that the police are looking for her and her parents. The police are not wrong AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #15
Probably seeing the arm amputated was very traumatizing for the mother. Ash_F Dec 2012 #17
The mother and daughter are in Mexico. ChazII Dec 2012 #21
did they say anything about why they left ? JI7 Dec 2012 #25
There were a couple of reasons ChazII Dec 2012 #32
Maybe..... DeSwiss Dec 2012 #22
I just saw this on the news and I agree with the mother. Vinca Dec 2012 #27
Uh huh. Sure. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #30
I don't find it terribly amusing. Vinca Dec 2012 #31
What if...? davsand Dec 2012 #33
Love how most of the responses have just made up their own narratives to run with. Posteritatis Dec 2012 #41
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