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happyslug

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20. Do you have any idea of how bad a person has to be to given that diagnoses?
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 11:11 PM
Dec 2012

Clinical Depression is tendency to deep depression, yes things in your life MAY make it worse (such as the overt religious culture at the academy) but in "clinical depression" the depression is independent of what makes a normal person depressed. The difference is degree can be seen in the DSM-IV definition of Major Depression (the name given the what was called "Clinical Depression" in the article that started this thread)" Notice bereavement is EXCLUDED from the diagnosis. In simple terms, Major Depression may be made worse by having to face something one dislikes (in this case the religious culture) but the Major Depression is more then that.


Major Depressive Episode

A. Five (or more) of the following symptoms have been present during the same 2-week period and represent a change from previous functioning; at least one of the symptoms is either (1) depressed mood or (2) loss of interest or pleasure.

Note: Do note include symptoms that are clearly due to a general medical condition, or mood-incongruent delusions or hallucinations.

(1) depressed mood most of the day, nearly every day, as indicated by either subjective report (e.g., feels sad or empty) or observation made by others (e.g., appears tearful). Note: In children and adolescents, can be irritable mood.

(2) markedly diminished interest or pleasure in all, or almost all, activities most of the day, nearly every day (as indicated by either subjective account or observation made by others)

(3) significant weight loss when not dieting or weight gain (e.g., a change of more than 5% of body weight in a month), or decrease or increase in appetite nearly every day. Note: In children, consider failure to make expected weight gains.

(4) insomnia or hypersomnia nearly every day

(5) psychomotor agitation or retardation nearly every day (observable by others, not merely subjective feelings of restlessness or being slowed down)

(6) fatigue or loss of energy nearly every day

(7) feelings of worthlessness or excessive or inappropriate guilt (which may be delusional) nearly every day (not merely self-reproach or guilt about being sick)

(8) diminished ability to think or concentrate, or indecisiveness, nearly every day (either by subjective account or as observed by others)

(9) recurrent thoughts of death (not just fear of dying), recurrent suicidal ideation without a specific plan, or a suicide attempt or a specific plan for committing suicide

B. The symptoms do not meet criteria for a Mixed Episode.

C. The symptoms cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.

D. The symptoms are not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., a drug of abuse, a medication) or a general medical condition (e.g., hypothyroidism).

E. The symptoms are not better accounted for by Bereavement, i.e., after the loss of a loved one, the symptoms persist for longer than 2 months or are characterized by marked functional impairment, morbid preoccupation with worthlessness, suicidal ideation, psychotic symptoms, or psychomotor retardation.

Major Depressive Disorder


Single Episode

A. Presence of a single Major Depressive Episode

B. The Major Depressive Episode is not better accounted for by Schizoaffective Disorder and is not superimposed on Schizophrenia, Schizophreniform Disorder, Delusional Disorder, or Psychotic Disorder Not Otherwise Specified.

C. There has never been a Manic Episode, a Mixed Episode, or a Hypomanic Episode. Note: This exclusion does not apply if all the manic-like, mixed-like, or hypomanic-like episodes are substance or treatment induced or are due to the direct physiological effects of a general medical condition.

Recurrent

A. Presence of two or more Major Depressive Episodes.

Note: To be considered separate episodes, there must be an interval of at least 2 consecutive months in which criteria are not met for a Major Depressive Episode.

B. The Major Depressive Episodes are not better accounted for by Schizoaffective Disorder and are not superimposed on Schizophrenia, Schizophreniform Disorder, Delusional Disorder, or Psychotic Disorder Not Otherwise Specified.

C. There has never been a Manic Episode, a Mixed Episode, or a Hypomanic Episode. Note: This exclusion does not apply if all the manic-like, mixed-like, or hypomanic-like episodes are substance or treatment induced or are due to the direct physiological effects or a general medical condition.


http://www.mental-health-today.com/dep/dsm.htm

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6 months before graduation? Drale Dec 2012 #1
Well he is still obligated for 5 yrs service six months or not..... Historic NY Dec 2012 #7
The exact circumstances of commitment and separation are detailed in AR 612-205 Angleae Dec 2012 #11
if more follow maindawg Dec 2012 #2
I heard a figure of "military presence" (including advisors) in 140, but don't know source. rwsanders Dec 2012 #5
A standing army leaves the chance that the generals are going to take over government Kolesar Dec 2012 #9
The fact he would NOT be commissioned due to depression is NOT a factor? happyslug Dec 2012 #3
Did you give any thought... azlatina Dec 2012 #4
Clinical Depression is a MEDICAL CONDITION and generally NOT the result of culture. happyslug Dec 2012 #6
I certainly hope that you are not a clinician. amandabeech Dec 2012 #13
You should read some of the reports from Psychiatrists and Psychologists I have read. happyslug Dec 2012 #16
Do you have any idea of how bad a person has to be to given that diagnoses? happyslug Dec 2012 #20
his father killed himself last year--I don't think Mr. Page is "in it for the attention" Kolesar Dec 2012 #8
His father suicide did not help the situation happyslug Dec 2012 #12
You have accused someone with symptoms of depression of having amandabeech Dec 2012 #14
I am NOT in the Military, all I am doing is saying it sounds more like Schizophrenia then depression happyslug Dec 2012 #15
Not trying to be a grammar policeman, but,... Ferretherder Dec 2012 #21
being stationed in the Aluetians ... Blackhawk44 Dec 2012 #10
Mr. Page is a free man, they are not going to keep him Kolesar Dec 2012 #19
Just to be clear the article doesn't say much... Historic NY Dec 2012 #17
How high can you fly? Kolesar Dec 2012 #18
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