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democrattotheend

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Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:07 AM Dec 2012

At Boehner’s Request, He and Obama Negotiate Alone [View all]

Source: The New York Times

WASHINGTON — At House Speaker John A. Boehner’s request, Senate leaders and Representative Nancy Pelosi have been excluded from talks to avert a fiscal crisis, leaving it to Mr. Boehner and President Obama alone to find a deal, Congressional aides say.

All sides, even the parties excluded, say clearing the negotiating room improves the chance of success. It adds complexity as the two negotiators consult separately with the leaders not in the room. But it also minimizes the number of people who need to say yes to an initial agreement.

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This time, while Mr. Boehner has made himself the sole focal point, aides say he has made sure a broad leadership team is behind him. He meets every morning while the House is in session with the full slate of Republican leaders, as well as the committee chairmen who would most likely implement a deal: Representative Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin, who heads the Budget Committee; Representative Dave Camp of Michigan, who leads the Ways and Means Committee; and Representative Fred Upton of Michigan, who heads the Energy and Commerce Committee.

White House officials have begun daily conference calls with the communications staffs of Mr. Reid and Ms. Pelosi. The White House communications director, Dan Pfeiffer, met with the Senate Democratic Caucus last week, and the director of the National Economic Council, Gene Sperling, spoke with the House Democrats late last month.



Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/07/us/politics/at-boehners-request-he-and-obama-negotiate-alone.html



Not sure what to think of this. I hope we don't learn of a deal to cut entitlements too late to act. On the other hand, maybe when it's just the two of them they will be able to negotiate more easily. For reasons I will lay out tomorrow (or sometime after exams), I have come to believe that a deal might still be the best option, even if it involves some entitlement reform, if it involves raising taxes on the rich and putting in place a mechanism like the McConnell rule to prevent further showdowns over the debt ceiling, for which the GOP will continue to extra huge cuts.
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Boehner doesn't want anyone else to see him drunk..... msanthrope Dec 2012 #1
Boehner and Obama are not alone. Boehner brings his pal Johnny Walker bulloney Dec 2012 #22
Glenfiddich is out, according to Trump... Thor_MN Dec 2012 #25
... drunk, weeping and slurring ... Myrina Dec 2012 #39
the question for me is this: grasswire Dec 2012 #2
Reid - the guy who accepted McConnell's word on the filibuster ? PoliticAverse Dec 2012 #5
looks like boner won the election nt msongs Dec 2012 #3
Please don't cave. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #4
If Obama caves on the highest rate issue wtmusic Dec 2012 #6
Obama already indicates he is gonna cave on SS & Medicare. jerseyjack Dec 2012 #17
I know. Outrageous, isn't it? AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #30
^ This, +1000000 Myrina Dec 2012 #40
Call me a "purist" then. Vincardog Dec 2012 #46
+100000 wordpix Dec 2012 #24
If Obama's Response to Just About Anything Boner Says dballance Dec 2012 #7
Boehner is positioning himself as de facto head of the Republicans The Second Stone Dec 2012 #8
This is not good for seniors, but I can tell you that Boehner has lots of seniors JDPriestly Dec 2012 #9
You are assuming Obama wants to be tough. jerseyjack Dec 2012 #18
If nothing else, dotymed Dec 2012 #31
Hmmmm, No Mention Of Senate Involvement DallasNE Dec 2012 #10
IIRC, fiscal bills must originate in the House. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #42
That's Why I Said Two Bills DallasNE Dec 2012 #55
does anyone think Boehner Cries to Obama about how the teabaggers and other JI7 Dec 2012 #11
Yep, that's what I think. LeftInTX Dec 2012 #44
Meeting SamKnause Dec 2012 #12
Boehner has taken a few heads quaker bill Dec 2012 #13
Ah. Personal ties with Republican mucky mucks. That's good to know... Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #20
Not really quaker bill Dec 2012 #47
negotiate prescription drug prices Kolesar Dec 2012 #21
+1000000 nenagh Dec 2012 #23
This is no different than the grand bargain negotiating - Boehner agreed to a deal then reneged. Justice Dec 2012 #14
Last year Boehner did the same thing, him alone and then quit that deal! Sunlei Dec 2012 #15
If he wants he and his party want to commit seppuku who are we to argue with them? cstanleytech Dec 2012 #28
Drama Queen... or back room deal... FailureToCommunicate Dec 2012 #16
Last time the Orange One made a deal and then backed out of that deal... Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #19
Boehner doesn't want his side to hear what he's offering until its too late. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #26
Exactly. Boehner can't have the tearacists anywhere nearby if he wants a successful deal. nt onehandle Dec 2012 #29
Exactly. janx Dec 2012 #41
lol fascisthunter Dec 2012 #54
I wouldnt object to some changes in the social programs to be honest. cstanleytech Dec 2012 #27
What are these "some" changes? AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #32
Just because some poor changes have been done does not and should not = none should be made though. cstanleytech Dec 2012 #50
If we followed the logic that a Grand Bargain will result in good changes, we will see changes made AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #53
Yes but I am not saying we should privatize the programs cstanleytech Dec 2012 #56
I realize that you are not saying that SS should be privatized. But if we look at what Reagan did AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #58
Blackmail? Threats? Plausible deniability? Nihil Dec 2012 #33
What I think: bemildred Dec 2012 #34
This is the "in development" phase for the script of the bribe-to-vote ratio theater that's ahead. ancianita Dec 2012 #35
not good 4 obama - boner lies and will not tell the truth 2Design Dec 2012 #36
Is this how the process works? two people work out a deal in a back room? olddad56 Dec 2012 #37
The outcome to financial markets is baked in the cake bucolic_frolic Dec 2012 #38
Acclamation is only allowed when there is unanimous consent. former9thward Dec 2012 #52
Don't Get Him Alone He'll Start Crying Again kaspar411 Dec 2012 #43
NEWS FLASH: Boehner Hurls himself thru oval office window. Katashi_itto Dec 2012 #45
This sounds like good news to me. DCBob Dec 2012 #48
I don't believe that there is any deal that we can trust the GOP on, and R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #51
Just wait him out until about 5:15 and he will be sweating for a drink underpants Dec 2012 #49
Cuz he's afraid Nancy will make him cry. southerncrone Dec 2012 #57
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