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10. In other words, "John Bolton was right."

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 12:08 PM

Dec 2012

His project was always to oppose contemporary "Sovietization" in Europe, and, laughably, "Cubanization" in Latin America. NATO, of course, in the view of Bolton and Clinton, is not an institution of domination.

What's interesting here is that Clinton is opposing economic and not political integration. She consciously sees Eurasian economic development as a THREAT to US national interests if it occurs outside the US-led framework. This has nothing to do with "human rights" or ideology in any normal sense. Saudi Arabia is great, Russia is bad...

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Clinton fears efforts to 're-Sovietize' in Europe [View all] David__77 Dec 2012 OP

"re-sovietize" ??? I could have understood recreate the Russian Empire Mass Dec 2012 #1

The Russian empire wasn't based on a legal fiction of supposedly geek tragedy Dec 2012 #8

Not if the Estonians can help it. nt LiberalEsto Dec 2012 #29

Bet she's warming the hearts of aging cold warriors everywhere with that term BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #2

Guess we shouldn't have made fun of those GOP foreign policy advisors after all... malthaussen Dec 2012 #3

Ahw geez. iamthebandfanman Dec 2012 #4

I think we can all agree the Soviet Union was a terrible thig. Pterodactyl Dec 2012 #5

Do SOSs ever observe what's going on in their own countries? ReRe Dec 2012 #6

Well, I found it interesting when the Bush admin. promoted "union rights" in Iraq. David__77 Dec 2012 #9

We support things overseas that we never do at home. Daniel537 Dec 2012 #20

Just like Reagan did in Poland and than squashed the Air Traffic Controllers here. nt kelliekat44 Dec 2012 #32

The answer is no. Beacool Dec 2012 #12

Yes, I'm sure Vladimir Putin has no intent to dominate his neighbors there. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #7

In other words, "John Bolton was right." David__77 Dec 2012 #10

NATO does not exist to allow one state to subjugate other members. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #11

Quit saying "Clinton" as if she's operating in a vacuum. Beacool Dec 2012 #13

Indeed, "who in Eastern Europe wants to return to the way things were?" David__77 Dec 2012 #16

That's silly...eom Kolesar Dec 2012 #39

Lol, did i miss something? Daniel537 Dec 2012 #22

"Saudi Arabia is great, Russia is bad" That's been the Bush-Clinton program going back to the '80s. leveymg Dec 2012 #30

The U.S. John2 Dec 2012 #38

Time for me to learn some history about how the Russian empire was formed the first go around Politicub Dec 2012 #14

Hungary's right-wing government is very anti-Russian. David__77 Dec 2012 #17

Which is exactly why I need to learn some history and study up on Politicub Dec 2012 #18

Yeah, her vote for the Iraq war was a really good moment of judgement. n/t Daniel537 Dec 2012 #23

Thank you for your concern Politicub Dec 2012 #24

Your most welcome. Daniel537 Dec 2012 #26

Considering domestic drones, Bradley manning, and the hounding of Julian Assange maybe we could... JVS Dec 2012 #15

She fears? Yea, we've got to prop up the military-industrial complex somehow. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #19

We always have to have some boogeyman for the MIC to get propped up. Daniel537 Dec 2012 #21

anyone who would trust putin is a fool madrchsod Dec 2012 #25

So? Daniel537 Dec 2012 #27

Yesterday Putin says US seeking new cold war...now THIS? Crikey. HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #28

Clinton SamKnause Dec 2012 #31

"Liberal internationalism" is liberal and international and was practiced by FDR and pampango Dec 2012 #33

I'll admit I haven't been a Clinton fan... David__77 Dec 2012 #34

I really really hope she doesn't run .. YOHABLO Dec 2012 #35

I don't think she will be a Democratic presidential nominee. David__77 Dec 2012 #36

You mean someone John2 Dec 2012 #40

''....taking particular aim at Russia for its crackdown.... DeSwiss Dec 2012 #37