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67. Sorry, but increasing Medicare eligibility age will kill people

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 08:51 PM

Dec 2012

A lot of people wait until they are 65 to see a doctor, and sometimes it is too late. Imagine what it will mean if it is 67.

So, no, No Hope There. Just a feeling that the fiscal cliff will be done on the back of the poorest, those who are typically do not have health insurance or one with a HUGE copay. But I knew that for a very long time. This party is and always been about f*ng the poorest, as they do not vote.

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The fiscal cliff deal comes clearer: a 37% top tax rate and a higher Medicare eligibility age [View all] Recursion Dec 2012 OP

37%? sadbear Dec 2012 #1

35% Recursion Dec 2012 #2

How will the job providers survive with this massive 2% tax hike? Ash_F Dec 2012 #8

It's not about the job providers, but the job creators. AAO Dec 2012 #48

Good point. Ash_F Dec 2012 #57

You know it's not because I'm smarter than they are! AAO Dec 2012 #71

That is completely unacceptable dsc Dec 2012 #3

Don't overlook this nugget: Myrina Dec 2012 #13

More like higher co-pays AND deductibles Lasher Dec 2012 #45

How does it raise the cost of Medicare? thesquanderer Dec 2012 #53

Contracting the pool curlyred Dec 2012 #70

Screw that deal - off the cliff is better ItsTheMediaStupid Dec 2012 #56

FUCK'n "A" !!! AAO Dec 2012 #73

Yeah. Why are we even discussing this? They are over a barrel. Let's just roll it over the cliff. Squinch Dec 2012 #82

I agree... INdemo Dec 2012 #65

This is absolute garbage. ProSense Dec 2012 #4

No progressive should support this. David__77 Dec 2012 #5

Good cop Bad cop aandegoons Dec 2012 #6

The suckers? That would be the middle class. fleur-de-lisa Dec 2012 #47

Repeal on tax deduction for donations to churches itsrobert Dec 2012 #7

Not sure that would be Constitutional democrattotheend Dec 2012 #20

The thing is, most churches don't really do much in the way of real "charity" - functionally, kath Dec 2012 #46

I think that most churches do perform a lot of charitable work ItsTheMediaStupid Dec 2012 #55

Definitely not the case for my synagogue democrattotheend Dec 2012 #78

If the repeal is ONLY for CHURCHES, I too would support that. 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #34

ACA blunting the effects of higher Medicare age BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #9

Not going to happen cosmicone Dec 2012 #10

... and you know that, how exactly? Myrina Dec 2012 #19

Err.. he's said SS is off of the table Recursion Dec 2012 #27

Right now there is an option for "early" SS retirement, at 62. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #44

A Medicare eligibility age rises from 65 to 67 will end President Obama's mandate for anything else Walk away Dec 2012 #11

Sort of like anybody who raised SS eligibility from 65 to 67 would be politically dead forever? Recursion Dec 2012 #15

In my book they would be. You really do start to tire when you hit your late 50s. nt Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #28

I think you missed Recursion's point thesquanderer Dec 2012 #51

It's gradual - I'm waiting to 66. AAO Dec 2012 #63

A tax trick may also be used to reduce Social Security benefits. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #12

I predicted something like this a few days ago democrattotheend Dec 2012 #14

Agreed: this has to include something like the McConnell plan Recursion Dec 2012 #18

Raising Medicare age will keep older workers from retiring splat Dec 2012 #16

Employers are already letting older workers go in droves. This just LibDemAlways Dec 2012 #24

Exactly nt abelenkpe Dec 2012 #54

Iam 64 and not working HockeyMom Dec 2012 #79

I think it will be slightly different ... Myrina Dec 2012 #26

The raising the Medicare eligibility age part is bullshit. There are already too LibDemAlways Dec 2012 #17

ACA will help that, somewhat Recursion Dec 2012 #21

Bullshit. Raising the eligibility age would cost, not save, money. Scuba Dec 2012 #33

Of course it would, but the cost would be shifted to employers and individuals Recursion Dec 2012 #41

A top rate of 37% is a win for the Republicans (they get to keep most of the Bush tax cuts geek tragedy Dec 2012 #60

Why must we do "some of it"? There's lots of places to get money besides stealing it .... Scuba Dec 2012 #75

Sure, after they lose their home. Walk away Dec 2012 #61

NO ONE campaigned on raising the Medicare eligibility age, NO FUCKING DEAL! Firebrand Gary Dec 2012 #22

Nobody campaigned against it either democrattotheend Dec 2012 #25

* DJ13 Dec 2012 #23

Social Security has already been lowered Disconnect Dec 2012 #29

I read the article ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #30

If they raise Medicare to 67, I'll never vote for a Dem again! Coyotl Dec 2012 #31

Cool story, bro Recursion Dec 2012 #32

I'm not only dead serious, I'll likely be dead and unable to vote. Coyotl Dec 2012 #38

Neither will I. Might as well just hit myself with a hammer. forestpath Dec 2012 #50

Totally unacceptable, such a plan will be met with millions in the streets. Scuba Dec 2012 #35

No, it really won't Recursion Dec 2012 #42

Apocolypse for those recently disabled and over 50 kickysnana Dec 2012 #36

In two decades when the age increase comes into effect, Medicaid will be expanded Recursion Dec 2012 #43

716 Billion, 716 Billion, 716 Billion, 716 Billion, 716 Billion....... Firebrand Gary Dec 2012 #37

This is speculation, not news. A complete disaster if true though. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #39

Why would any Dem in Washington be interested in giving the Republicans a win? Scuba Dec 2012 #40

This would be a complete betrayal as far as I'm concerned. forestpath Dec 2012 #49

This is great abelenkpe Dec 2012 #52

For what it's worth, this is not breaking news OKNancy Dec 2012 #58

Fuck that wryter2000 Dec 2012 #59

This would be a slap in the face to all of us. No deal gets us 39%!!!!! grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #62

Krugman: I Hope This Isn’t True ProSense Dec 2012 #64

"cost-sharing and decreases in provider payments" = YOU GET FUCKING SCREWED! n/t Fearless Dec 2012 #66

Sorry, but increasing Medicare eligibility age will kill people Mass Dec 2012 #67

Keeping it where it is will kill people. Recursion Dec 2012 #74

"Proposed in July 2011" Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #68

If it's true Teamster Jeff Dec 2012 #69

it reads like a sellout, if that's the case. stupidicus Dec 2012 #72

What sucks is we have to just wait it out, hope AAO Dec 2012 #77

Give me the cliff... defacto7 Dec 2012 #76

This is what I figured would happen. joshcryer Dec 2012 #80

Locking, not breaking news, but analysis, opinion Rhiannon12866 Dec 2012 #81