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In reply to the discussion: Jack Smith Finds Chink in Donald Trump's Armor--His 'Private' Attorney [View all]BumRushDaShow
(172,295 posts)was to indicate that 45's communications with Department/agency personnel could be considered "protected". And that meant his communications with and attempts to get Jeffrey Clark appointed as "Acting AG", were part of "official duties". Because of that, Jack Smith revised the 45 indictment and removed Clark from it with a revised 45 indictment.
HOWEVER, the key here, like with Clark, had to do with Roberts indicating that communications with current federal staff are part of "official duties".
But when you start bringing in people like Ghouliani, Sidney Powell, Jenna Ellis, etc., who were "personal lawyers", what they are directed to do shouldn't be considered part of any kind of "official duties".
I.e., when it comes to a President's "official lawyer", that would be the White House Counsel (who heads a team of lawyers for the President and offers legal advice regarding E.O.s, signing/vetoing legislation, etc.).
So if 45 directed a "private" (non-federal employee) lawyer to contact Pence to encourage Pence to violate the law, then all bets should be off to consider that any kind of "official duty".