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Mosby

(19,491 posts)
30. Hezbollah is part of the government of Lebanon
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 11:02 AM
Oct 2024

They have been for a long time, multiple decades.

Your understanding of 1701 is incorrect, to wit:

UN Security Council Resolution 1701 mandates that UNIFIL's main responsibility is to confirm the disarming of Hezbollah and to prevent further hostilities in southern Lebanon. However, despite this mandate, Hezbollah has significantly expanded its military presence over the years.


Here's some of the relevant text from 1701 and meeting notes.

Section 11 spells out the role of UNIFIL:

Decides, in order to supplement and enhance the force in numbers, equipment, mandate and scope of operations, to authorize an increase in the force strength of UNIFIL to a maximum of 15,000 troops, and that the force shall, in addition to carrying out its mandate under resolutions 425 and 426 (1978):


(a) Monitor the cessation of hostilities;


(b) Accompany and support the Lebanese armed forces as they deploy throughout the South, including along the Blue Line, as Israel withdraws its armed forces from Lebanon as provided in paragraph 2;


(c) Coordinate its activities related to paragraph 11 (b) with the Government of Lebanon and the Government of Israel;


(d) Extend its assistance to help ensure humanitarian access to civilian populations and the voluntary and safe return of displaced persons;


(e) Assist the Lebanese armed forces in taking steps towards the establishment of the area as referred to in paragraph 8;


(f) Assist the Government of Lebanon, at its request, to implement paragraph 14;


Obviously "accompany and support the Lebanese armed forces" is a lot more than observing, they were there to actively support the Goverment army, which is why the resolution calls for increasing troop size and armament.

Here's UN SecGen Kofi Annan:

Now, UNIFIL faces a new task, perhaps even more difficult and dangerous than its previous one. It must be robust and effective, and ensure that no vacuum is left between the Israeli withdrawal and the deployment of Lebanese forces”, he said. Obviously, if it was to carry out its new mandate, it needed to be augmented with the utmost urgency, and provided with sophisticated military capabilities.


“The Council cannot afford to relax for one minute”, he said, urging its members to consult closely, and at once, with both existing and potential troop contributors, with a view to generating the additional forces needed as quickly as possible, “before the situation on the ground once again spins out of control”. He urged the Council to make sure the forces had the equipment they needed. He also appealed to all potential donors to respond swiftly to requests from the Lebanese Government for financial help, as it struggled to reconstruct its devastated country.


Why would Kofi Annan say that UNIFIL needs "sophisticated military capabilities" moniss? You don't need that to "observe".

UNSCR 1701

Eta UNSCR 245 (1978)

Decides, in the light of the request of the Government of Lebanon, to establish immediately under its authority a United Nations interim force for Southern Lebanon for the purpose of confirming the withdrawal of Israeli forces, restoring international peace and security and assisting the Government of Lebanon in ensuring the return of its effective authority in the area, the Force to be composed of personnel drawn from Member States;


Pretty sure they weren't expected to "restore international peace and security" with words, lol.

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The same organization that reports the Hamas Gaza Government's casulty reports at 100% fact AZLD4Candidate Oct 2024 #1
Historically their numbers have proved accurate. Eko Oct 2024 #22
Lol, no they aren't NickB79 Oct 2024 #24
Not sure Tablet is a good source of information. Eko Oct 2024 #25
Vox has a left wing bias Mosby Oct 2024 #31
That was not "their own investigation" - your own source is quite clear about that muriel_volestrangler Oct 2024 #32
So you admit the BBC is biased? Mosby Oct 2024 #34
Your post title doesn't even deserve an answer. (nt) muriel_volestrangler Oct 2024 #35
That was not their own investigation, just read and follow the link. Eko Oct 2024 #37
ROFLMAO Israeli Oct 2024 #39
It's true. Mosby Oct 2024 #42
Nail on head Israeli Oct 2024 #38
Do you think your country should exist? Mosby Oct 2024 #41
3 of those were Israeli media sites and the last one,, well,,, Eko Oct 2024 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Oct 2024 #43
I guess Israel has the "right to defend herself" from the United Nations by gassing peacekeepers.. mountain grammy Oct 2024 #2
Those peacekeepers are doing a bang up job AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2024 #3
Oh ok. Then I guess it's ok to gas them mountain grammy Oct 2024 #4
Jury's out as to the origin of the rockets w/ gas. Igel Oct 2024 #6
You seem to be accusing Israel of the gassing, MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2024 #14
"It did not say who fired the shells or what sort of toxic substance it suspected." Beastly Boy Oct 2024 #9
The rules of engagement moniss Oct 2024 #5
Should Lebanon be kicked out of the UN? Mosby Oct 2024 #28
Hezbollah sent the rockets not moniss Oct 2024 #29
Hezbollah is part of the government of Lebanon Mosby Oct 2024 #30
Your seeming indication of some "shooting role" moniss Oct 2024 #33
Role of Peacekeepers? manicdem Oct 2024 #7
From Oct 8th to late September, Israel killed about 10 times as many in Lebanon as Hezbollah killed in Israel muriel_volestrangler Oct 2024 #8
Not for the lack of trying on Hezbollah's part... Beastly Boy Oct 2024 #10
I'm stating that Israel kills a fuck-ton of Lebanese muriel_volestrangler Oct 2024 #11
The UN did jack shit to protect the Lebanese, if you haven't noticed. Beastly Boy Oct 2024 #13
Yea, I mean what does the UN actually do there? manicdem Oct 2024 #19
How many were Hezbollah or militants? manicdem Oct 2024 #17
Or even under civilian buildings, like HAMAs did. MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2024 #18
How about restoring the Israeli government from Likud? onandup Oct 2024 #12
The only ones who can remove the Likud from the Govt. are the Israeli voters, MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2024 #15
It's been suggested Hezbollah be removed by force onandup Oct 2024 #20
LOL. MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2024 #21
.... MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2024 #16
Literally no Israeli government would ignore 8000+ rocket attacks in a year NickB79 Oct 2024 #23
The out-of-control bully/warmonger continues his rampage. brush Oct 2024 #26
Time to shut down all military aid to Israel. sinkingfeeling Oct 2024 #27
Official UNIFIL Statement on Merkava Tank Incident C0RI0LANUS Oct 2024 #40
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