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33. related subject: Labour's Keir Starmer backs trans sports bans: 'Common sense has to prevail'
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 03:15 PM
Dec 12
https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/03/12/keir-starmer-trans-athletes-ban/

Keir Starmer has said he supports a ban on trans women competing in women’s sports. In recent months, a number of major sporting federations, including Badminton England, British Rowing and Swim England, have barred transgender women from competing. The Labour leader has previously remained coy on the issue, but during a visit to a school in his Holborn and St Pancras constituency on Monday (11 March), he told The Telegraph that he is “supportive” of the bans. “The important thing is that sports governing bodies take a lead on this,” Starmer said. “And they are doing that, and we’re supportive of what they’re doing, particularly in elite sport. “That’s where the decision should be taken, and, in the end, common sense has to prevail in terms of safety and integrity of sport.”

Labour once stood firm on transgender rights but amid the increasing politicisation of trans lives the party has backtracked, U-turned and obfuscated on key issues. Last April, Starmer was accused of “throwing trans people under the bus” following an interview where he controversially said: “For 99.9 per cent of women, it is completely biological … and, of course, they haven’t got a penis”. During the same interview, he appeared to throw his support behind outing trans youth to their parents, saying: “Of course I’d want to know. I say that as a parent. I would want to know and I think the vast majority of parents would want to know.

During the same interview, he appeared to throw his support behind outing trans youth to their parents, saying: “Of course I’d want to know. I say that as a parent. I would want to know and I think the vast majority of parents would want to know. “That’s why we have to have national guidance on it and they should try to make it cross-party, because it’s not helpful to parents or schools to have this as a toxic divide when what’s needed is practical, common-sense advice.” This expanded on previous comments the Labour leader made three months earlier, when he insisted that 16 is too young for anyone to legally change gender, and that spaces must remain single-sex. “Sex-based rights matter and we must preserve all those wins that we’ve had for women over many years, including safe spaces,” he said.

“I’m afraid 16 is too young. People will have different views on this, but I think 16 is too young for that process. I would go for 18, the age of adulthood in most cases. “But I accept – readily accept – that there are a small number of people who do not identify with the gender into which they were born and they are often among the most abused in our society. “They should be respected, and there should be a process – as there is under the law – for them to be recognised in the gender [with which] they identify.” In July, when asked further about his position on the “penis question”, Starmer told Radio 5’s Nicky Campbell that a “woman is an adult female”. Phrases such as “adult female” and “biological women” are seen by many as a transphobic dog whistle and are used by anti-trans campaigners to stoke tension between transgender rights and women’s rights.

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Fuck these people to hell. onecaliberal Dec 11 #1
The National Health Service under the control of the Labour Party in the UK? F those people? nt kelly1mm Dec 11 #3
What did those people just do? onecaliberal Dec 11 #4
Made a decision that we are not allowed to discuss the pros and cons of here on DU. nt kelly1mm Dec 11 #5
If you want to discuss that LostOne4Ever Dec 12 #13
Reading between the lines BootOutTheGoons Dec 12 #18
Certainly looks that way to me AZSkiffyGeek Dec 12 #28
Nothing but hate BootOutTheGoons Dec 12 #43
The Cass Review was done under the Tories LostOne4Ever Dec 12 #12
related subject: Labour's Keir Starmer backs trans sports bans: 'Common sense has to prevail' Celerity Dec 12 #33
the left to centre left Labour party (not the centrist to centre right Lib Dems) controls the House of Commons Celerity Dec 12 #32
Be advised that discussions here on DU concerning transgender issues is subject to the terms kelly1mm Dec 11 #2
"certain perspectives" TommyT139 Dec 11 #6
I thought I was pretty clear. The site owner here on DU has decided that discussions on this topic kelly1mm Dec 11 #8
You're not making sense TommyT139 Dec 11 #9
Post removed Post removed Dec 11 #10
They're complaining they can't be transphobic here NT AZSkiffyGeek Dec 12 #29
Oh yeah... TommyT139 Dec 12 #39
Obsessive definitely applies AZSkiffyGeek Dec 12 #41
Because we SUPPORT HUMAN RIGHTS ON THIS SITE! LostOne4Ever Dec 12 #14
It's not even debating BootOutTheGoons Dec 12 #17
The moment I see something like that LostOne4Ever Dec 12 #19
That's exactly what it is. Bigotry BootOutTheGoons Dec 12 #23
I know LostOne4Ever Dec 12 #26
All true BootOutTheGoons Dec 12 #42
Looking through previous threads I was in AZSkiffyGeek Dec 12 #38
The usual suspects I'm guessing? BootOutTheGoons Dec 12 #44
At least they can't hide behind comment recs now thanks to the latest update AZSkiffyGeek Dec 12 #45
Agreed BootOutTheGoons Dec 13 #46
Sometimes it's just best to move along and not reply n/t Polybius Dec 12 #20
That wasn't effective during the election, was it. TommyT139 Dec 12 #40
How many times do we have to say it?! sakabatou Dec 11 #7
The study was conducted by doctors, not politicians Jose Garcia Dec 12 #21
The Cass meta-analysis has become political Mosby Dec 12 #25
"we fought two wars so we wouldn't have to listen to the fucking British!!!" Jack Valentino Dec 12 #11
Many people that learn liberal are opposed to treatments for transgender minors JI7 Dec 12 #15
"Many people that learn liberal..." TommyT139 Dec 12 #16
See you next Year when it's all adults, and then gay marriage. Oneironaut Dec 12 #22
Many people that are transphobic are opposed to treatments for transgender minors AZSkiffyGeek Dec 12 #30
Interesting. maxsolomon Dec 12 #24
Britain is ground zero for anti-trans activity NT AZSkiffyGeek Dec 12 #31
Not Russia? maxsolomon Dec 12 #34
It's easy to blame the Russian boogeyman AZSkiffyGeek Dec 12 #35
Yeah, I'm not blaming Russia exclusively. maxsolomon Dec 12 #36
Hammer meet nail AZSkiffyGeek Dec 12 #37
As my daughter explained to me, these simply block puberty they don't end it underpants Dec 12 #27
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