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In reply to the discussion: Britain bans puberty blockers for transgender minors [View all]Celerity
(47,834 posts)33. related subject: Labour's Keir Starmer backs trans sports bans: 'Common sense has to prevail'
https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/03/12/keir-starmer-trans-athletes-ban/
Keir Starmer has said he supports a ban on trans women competing in womens sports. In recent months, a number of major sporting federations, including Badminton England, British Rowing and Swim England, have barred transgender women from competing. The Labour leader has previously remained coy on the issue, but during a visit to a school in his Holborn and St Pancras constituency on Monday (11 March), he told The Telegraph that he is supportive of the bans. The important thing is that sports governing bodies take a lead on this, Starmer said. And they are doing that, and were supportive of what theyre doing, particularly in elite sport. Thats where the decision should be taken, and, in the end, common sense has to prevail in terms of safety and integrity of sport.
Labour once stood firm on transgender rights but amid the increasing politicisation of trans lives the party has backtracked, U-turned and obfuscated on key issues. Last April, Starmer was accused of throwing trans people under the bus following an interview where he controversially said: For 99.9 per cent of women, it is completely biological and, of course, they havent got a penis. During the same interview, he appeared to throw his support behind outing trans youth to their parents, saying: Of course Id want to know. I say that as a parent. I would want to know and I think the vast majority of parents would want to know.
During the same interview, he appeared to throw his support behind outing trans youth to their parents, saying: Of course Id want to know. I say that as a parent. I would want to know and I think the vast majority of parents would want to know. Thats why we have to have national guidance on it and they should try to make it cross-party, because its not helpful to parents or schools to have this as a toxic divide when whats needed is practical, common-sense advice. This expanded on previous comments the Labour leader made three months earlier, when he insisted that 16 is too young for anyone to legally change gender, and that spaces must remain single-sex. Sex-based rights matter and we must preserve all those wins that weve had for women over many years, including safe spaces, he said.
Im afraid 16 is too young. People will have different views on this, but I think 16 is too young for that process. I would go for 18, the age of adulthood in most cases. But I accept readily accept that there are a small number of people who do not identify with the gender into which they were born and they are often among the most abused in our society. They should be respected, and there should be a process as there is under the law for them to be recognised in the gender [with which] they identify. In July, when asked further about his position on the penis question, Starmer told Radio 5s Nicky Campbell that a woman is an adult female. Phrases such as adult female and biological women are seen by many as a transphobic dog whistle and are used by anti-trans campaigners to stoke tension between transgender rights and womens rights.
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Keir Starmer has said he supports a ban on trans women competing in womens sports. In recent months, a number of major sporting federations, including Badminton England, British Rowing and Swim England, have barred transgender women from competing. The Labour leader has previously remained coy on the issue, but during a visit to a school in his Holborn and St Pancras constituency on Monday (11 March), he told The Telegraph that he is supportive of the bans. The important thing is that sports governing bodies take a lead on this, Starmer said. And they are doing that, and were supportive of what theyre doing, particularly in elite sport. Thats where the decision should be taken, and, in the end, common sense has to prevail in terms of safety and integrity of sport.
Labour once stood firm on transgender rights but amid the increasing politicisation of trans lives the party has backtracked, U-turned and obfuscated on key issues. Last April, Starmer was accused of throwing trans people under the bus following an interview where he controversially said: For 99.9 per cent of women, it is completely biological and, of course, they havent got a penis. During the same interview, he appeared to throw his support behind outing trans youth to their parents, saying: Of course Id want to know. I say that as a parent. I would want to know and I think the vast majority of parents would want to know.
During the same interview, he appeared to throw his support behind outing trans youth to their parents, saying: Of course Id want to know. I say that as a parent. I would want to know and I think the vast majority of parents would want to know. Thats why we have to have national guidance on it and they should try to make it cross-party, because its not helpful to parents or schools to have this as a toxic divide when whats needed is practical, common-sense advice. This expanded on previous comments the Labour leader made three months earlier, when he insisted that 16 is too young for anyone to legally change gender, and that spaces must remain single-sex. Sex-based rights matter and we must preserve all those wins that weve had for women over many years, including safe spaces, he said.
Im afraid 16 is too young. People will have different views on this, but I think 16 is too young for that process. I would go for 18, the age of adulthood in most cases. But I accept readily accept that there are a small number of people who do not identify with the gender into which they were born and they are often among the most abused in our society. They should be respected, and there should be a process as there is under the law for them to be recognised in the gender [with which] they identify. In July, when asked further about his position on the penis question, Starmer told Radio 5s Nicky Campbell that a woman is an adult female. Phrases such as adult female and biological women are seen by many as a transphobic dog whistle and are used by anti-trans campaigners to stoke tension between transgender rights and womens rights.
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The National Health Service under the control of the Labour Party in the UK? F those people? nt
kelly1mm
Dec 11
#3
Made a decision that we are not allowed to discuss the pros and cons of here on DU. nt
kelly1mm
Dec 11
#5
related subject: Labour's Keir Starmer backs trans sports bans: 'Common sense has to prevail'
Celerity
Dec 12
#33
the left to centre left Labour party (not the centrist to centre right Lib Dems) controls the House of Commons
Celerity
Dec 12
#32
Be advised that discussions here on DU concerning transgender issues is subject to the terms
kelly1mm
Dec 11
#2
I thought I was pretty clear. The site owner here on DU has decided that discussions on this topic
kelly1mm
Dec 11
#8
At least they can't hide behind comment recs now thanks to the latest update
AZSkiffyGeek
Dec 12
#45
"we fought two wars so we wouldn't have to listen to the fucking British!!!"
Jack Valentino
Dec 12
#11
Many people that are transphobic are opposed to treatments for transgender minors
AZSkiffyGeek
Dec 12
#30