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Bluetus

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117. Brunner report
Thu Jan 23, 2025, 11:39 AM
Jan 2025

Last edited Thu Jan 23, 2025, 03:44 PM - Edit history (1)

It is a 2007 study, but mostly still relevant, and a very thorough report. People can find it here: https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/document/22486-document-05-jennifer-l-brunner-ohio-secretary

The ES&S process involving memory cards is described on P26, and is similar to all the other systems.

The report describes good safeguards throughout the process EXCEPT for the handling of that card. In all cases, the cards are manually removed from the tabulation machine and delivered to a central location. In absence of a recount, I believe the SOP is to simply use the memory cards and never refer back to the tabulation machines or the paper ballots themselves -- and there were NO RECOUNTS.

There is an opportunity to change the contents of the memory card from the time they are removed from the tabulation machines to the time they are actually processed at election HQ for the county. That requires corrupt officials, but there is absolutely no doubt there are many corrupt people in the election systems. We saw what Tina Peters did. We saw all the fake electors. It is certainly not a stretch to imagine scenarios where insiders could manipulate the memory cards before they are processed at the county level. The only real safeguard is that such fraud could easily be detected by recounting the ballots. But if there are no recounts, such tampering could go undetected.

And remember, elections are political. The objective isn't to win the election, but to win the count, and more specifically, to win the PR battle in the first few days after the voting ends. The Trump people wouldn't necessarily have been concerned about recounts because they figured they could bully their way through that and have Trump practically coronated within the first 24 hours, which is exactly what happened.

We have Democratic Governors in many of the swing states. There really should be a forensic audit to see if any of these cards were manipulated, as Trump seems to imply with his public statements.

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Good! nilram Jan 2025 #1
There is something there Bread and Circuses Jan 2025 #67
What is our recourse once it's found the tabulation software was hacked? pfitz59 Jan 2025 #2
What about making sure it never happens again? OnionPatch Jan 2025 #6
If it is proven that tfg & musk colluded to put tfg in office questionseverything Jan 2025 #27
IF proven. only ONE option bluestarone Jan 2025 #59
Ok hear me out. cannabis_flower Jan 2025 #107
It's not that it shouldn't Polybius Jan 2025 #94
HOW? WHO? live love laugh Jan 2025 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author OnionPatch Jan 2025 #132
What is there to stop them? Jarqui Jan 2025 #46
You Are Right Baron2024 Jan 2025 #51
Also Baron2024 Jan 2025 #56
How did corrupt regimes end? Dem4life1234 Jan 2025 #121
Really? How will that happen? By voting? Give me a break rainin Jan 2025 #58
This! Dem4life1234 Jan 2025 #123
You are correct.. Butterflylady Jan 2025 #120
We won't get Trump but Musk doesn't have MadameButterfly Jan 2025 #130
All good questions. yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #14
Through The Courts And The Media Baron2024 Jan 2025 #47
When they control the results - how yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #65
If They Suspend The Constitution Baron2024 Jan 2025 #71
Hmmmm yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #73
What Do You Think? Baron2024 Jan 2025 #74
If they do indeed try and suspend the Constitution - yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #75
It Would Be Beyond Impeachment Baron2024 Jan 2025 #78
The barrage right now feels like storm force winds. yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #80
I Agree Baron2024 Jan 2025 #82
Agreed yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #86
Well given that most law enforcement approve of and voted for Trump and travelingthrulife Jan 2025 #116
Good points Dem4life1234 Jan 2025 #124
UN-certifying him as 47th president? fierywoman Jan 2025 #28
How? Who? live love laugh Jan 2025 #40
In The Courts And In The Media Baron2024 Jan 2025 #45
Also Baron2024 Jan 2025 #52
But the media are as corrupt as SCROTUS and TFP dickthegrouch Jan 2025 #128
Don't get me wrong. Statements like this BadgerMom Jan 2025 #3
Good point yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #15
Well, that won't happen. sinkingfeeling Jan 2025 #4
Did you ever think that the Berlin Wall would never fall? Or that Nelson Mandela would never be freed? fierywoman Jan 2025 #55
You think the GQP will allow the Democrats to run an investigation? sinkingfeeling Jan 2025 #57
Hell no. oldmanlynn Jan 2025 #61
Actually, this is a job meant for . . . . wait for it . . . . no_hypocrisy Jan 2025 #103
Yes, journalist have failed in their jobs. Farmer-Rick Jan 2025 #114
At least somebody is trying to find out something. hadEnuf Jan 2025 #5
That's how I feel about it, hadEnuf! I'm glad someone is FINALLY bringing this up! BComplex Jan 2025 #7
Trump is probably gaslighting just to fuck with us but I do hope someone looks more carefully into this LymphocyteLover Jan 2025 #8
I think in this instance we should take him at his word. Frank D. Lincoln Jan 2025 #37
Gaslighting intelpug Jan 2025 #97
It's about TIME!!! n/t aggiesal Jan 2025 #9
Time for what ? live love laugh Jan 2025 #41
What do you think? n/t aggiesal Jan 2025 #42
Shapiro better damn well be investigating Figarosmom Jan 2025 #10
If there is a legal premise by which he can do, I trust Shapiro to do something. yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #17
Shapiro is the Governor. I'm not sure what he can do directly. Wiz Imp Jan 2025 #62
Fuck Dem4life1234 Jan 2025 #125
To be fair, prior to the 2024 election, the Democrats had won the last 3 Attorney General elections in PA. Wiz Imp Jan 2025 #127
I think the horse is already out of the barn jalan48 Jan 2025 #11
it always is... stillcool Jan 2025 #16
I'm glad orangecrush Jan 2025 #22
He made remarks like that during the campaign, and nobody did anything about it. milestogo Jan 2025 #12
Yup! yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #18
Some of us, on this forum, have been screaming , for the past two months. about those tabulation computers yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #13
OWNED by his daughter Ivanka. The media's TOTALLY silent about Ivanka. live love laugh Jan 2025 #43
Yep. Me Too. Baron2024 Jan 2025 #48
I didn't waver, as I was mocked, either. yellow dahlia Jan 2025 #63
Yes Baron2024 Jan 2025 #64
Leak needed SpankMe Jan 2025 #19
Do you think the 2000 presidential election was rigged, starting with the excuse of hang chads? usaf-vet Jan 2025 #20
I also have been thinking this for years. nt Susan Calvin Jan 2025 #25
After 2000, the state of Florida made it illegal to hand count votes questionseverything Jan 2025 #30
Tampering with software installed prior to the election. returnee Jan 2025 #108
Yay! orangecrush Jan 2025 #21
Excellent! Owl Jan 2025 #23
FINALLY! maspaha Jan 2025 #24
Criminals gotta brag Clouds Passing Jan 2025 #26
Anyone capable of orchestrating an insurrection Emile Jan 2025 #29
I agree. The fact that the votes for the monster were distributed across the population travelingthrulife Jan 2025 #118
This message was self-deleted by its author demosincebirth Jan 2025 #31
Who's going to investigate it? demosincebirth Jan 2025 #32
Trump. LOL live love laugh Jan 2025 #35
thanks, I needed some humor tonight. halobeam Jan 2025 #68
State Attorneys General Baron2024 Jan 2025 #72
Good! With drumphf's: we have the votes, no need etc, and now THIS?... electric_blue68 Jan 2025 #33
Such bullshit: "... the comments were quickly seized upon by anti-Trump viewers..." live love laugh Jan 2025 #34
Well we know the MAGats would never admit to "rigging" BumRushDaShow Jan 2025 #44
Criminals love to confess when safe to do so... GoldenMezzoDiva Jan 2025 #36
YES! These are Dems I can support! LSparkle Jan 2025 #38
So we're in this dystopian nightmare even though Kamala might have actually won. Frank D. Lincoln Jan 2025 #49
Do it now. nilram Jan 2025 #93
I think that's a brilliant idea. Frank D. Lincoln Jan 2025 #102
Please make this an OP /nt dickthegrouch Jan 2025 #129
I'm sure AG Bondi will get right on it as soon as she's confirmed. patphil Jan 2025 #50
Don't all voting machines count votes? IJS .... He's just fucking with you. live love laugh Jan 2025 #53
Some things need investigating... dchill Jan 2025 #54
I Posted About This Before Baron2024 Jan 2025 #60
I've always believed they rigged the election.. MiKenMi33 Jan 2025 #66
I Think That You Are Right Baron2024 Jan 2025 #84
Good to know someone Bettie Jan 2025 #69
Of course it was rigged tonekat Jan 2025 #70
"While Trump did not explicitly claim vote tabulation was manipulated..." choie Jan 2025 #76
GOP has alleged voter fraud forever RussBLib Jan 2025 #77
Recounts. We need selective recounts. CaptainTruth Jan 2025 #79
Vote Counting Computers are called Central .. Botany Jan 2025 #81
That seems unlikely Bluetus Jan 2025 #89
I have been doing election protection work for .. Botany Jan 2025 #90
Fingerprints? Bluetus Jan 2025 #95
If you get a chance read Brunner's Everest Study Botany Jan 2025 #96
Brunner report Bluetus Jan 2025 #117
Paper ballots and all election materials must be retained for 22 months questionseverything Jan 2025 #104
Is that a Federal law? Bluetus Jan 2025 #115
Yes questionseverything Jan 2025 #131
What do you think about something like this? bluestarone Jan 2025 #113
IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME! OMGWTF Jan 2025 #83
I'm thinking AI is the cause of vote rigging. LiberalFighter Jan 2025 #85
ding. AllaN01Bear Jan 2025 #87
So if he rigged the election nothing will be done? twodogsbarking Jan 2025 #88
Don't dismiss the idea of election corruption, it's a tradition in many countries, including USA Ttj Jan 2025 #91
I have no doubt they did do something, but Joinfortmill Jan 2025 #92
Before we go after him creeksneakers2 Jan 2025 #98
Elon Musk is the richest man in the world. I wouldn't be surprised if he had an AI developed specifically for that Karasu Jan 2025 #99
I have no doubt that a code could be written, and some say they could even creeksneakers2 Jan 2025 #100
Good post True Dough Jan 2025 #105
That's what happens when someone with the IQ of a toad just can't shut the f*ck up. Dave Bowman Jan 2025 #101
"You'll never have to vote again." Knowledge? Evolve Dammit Jan 2025 #106
The Democrats, our Past President Biden all knew the vote was manlipulated. FarPoint Jan 2025 #109
List of documentaries about vote hacking: Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2025 #110
It absolutely needs to be investigated Dem4life1234 Jan 2025 #111
Of course......... Farmer-Rick Jan 2025 #112
ABOUT TIME! Kid Berwyn Jan 2025 #119
Who is going to investigate him, the supreme court (chuckle chukel) republianmushroom Jan 2025 #122
Absolutely - make it so BoRaGard Jan 2025 #126
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