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87. Seeing that you respect this source, read this paragraph

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 07:23 PM

Dec 2012

"It was a bad day for the Obama administration, which now, even as it had planned to pick Senator John Kerry anyway, appears to have lost a fight with a gaggle of sniping Senators before they even had a chance to nominate anyone to replace the popular Hillary Clinton at State."

What this tells me is that Rice, possibly to help Obama or to save face, took her name out AFTER Obama had decided, but not announced that he was choosing Kerry. (the sentence would not have this meaning if the "as" were a "if".

As to Secretary of Defense, Kerry was not a particularly good fit, but Rice is not really a fit at all. She has no military experience or contact in prior jobs with the more prosaic defense issues (like budgets). Not to mention, that position needs to be approved by the Senate and there is LESS reason to vote for her on that. However, she could remain as UN Secretary or NSA is a WH post and does not need confirmation.

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Report: Obama Picks Kerry For Next Secretary Of State [View all] kpete Dec 2012 OP

Obama will regret this should he choose the Next supreme court justice. cyclezealot Dec 2012 #1

What do the two have to do with each other? brooklynite Dec 2012 #72

to block the goobers the dems need 61 votes. cyclezealot Dec 2012 #117

...which they don't have today; again no difference... brooklynite Dec 2012 #123

Mixed feelings, though Kerry will be good. I hope the rumors re: Vicky Kennedy appointment hlthe2b Dec 2012 #2

Hate the fact we will probably lose Kerry's Senate Seat.... Tippy Dec 2012 #3

Yep! The risk of brown getting his seat is unfortunate. However, Kerry will be an EXCELLENT Kahuna Dec 2012 #33

" " " n/t MBS Dec 2012 #119

Not so sure. I will bet you anything that the WH has focus grouped possible CTyankee Dec 2012 #36

And Adelson will pour $50 million into the state for Scott Brown. Joe Bacon Dec 2012 #114

I don't think I'd use Adelson as a winning example here. LOL. He didn't do so well with CTyankee Dec 2012 #116

And? malibea Dec 2012 #151

yup, agreed. n/t MBS Dec 2012 #120

I hope you are right JustAnotherGen Dec 2012 #152

Bang bang. woo me with science Dec 2012 #43

Yep. And if you're keeping track, that was the plethoro Dec 2012 #79

Yep. woo me with science Dec 2012 #86

I didn't want to appear cynical.....I plethoro Dec 2012 #89

It's been a terrible, terrible week. woo me with science Dec 2012 #96

Actually, we probably won't lose a Democratic seat. LOL! KittyWampus Dec 2012 #131

" " " "n/t MBS Dec 2012 #104

Rice was never 1st pick. McCain&Co and RW mediawhores had their dog and pony show anyway. blm Dec 2012 #4

They phuked Rice and Obama got blamed for it, just look at DU; they got what they wanted. nt patrice Dec 2012 #6

Kerry is great, one of my favorites. You should have seen how hard I worked for him in 2004. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #10

That's what I think, too. I wish ... YvonneCa Dec 2012 #20

Senator Pink Leather Shorts returns. nt onehandle Dec 2012 #5

Is this a Scott Brown or John Kerry reference? Never heard it. freshwest Dec 2012 #55

In his autobiography, Brown spoke of showing up for his first date with his wife karynnj Dec 2012 #74

Thanks, I didn't know about Brown's date. And I agree, not Kerry's style. freshwest Dec 2012 #80

Yes, do please share. allrevvedup Dec 2012 #60

If John Kerry gave a shit about us, why would he risk losing the Senate seat just to add another The Stranger Dec 2012 #7

I agree- he should stay in the Senate. underpants Dec 2012 #8

Why the weak knees, Strange? BTW - You are welcome to name ONE lawmaker who has effected blm Dec 2012 #12

He did all of those things in the Senate. The Stranger Dec 2012 #15

Well, you say Kerry's work has been 'pathetic' and I'm holding you accountable for your claim. blm Dec 2012 #27

He lost a Presidential election he should have won. The Stranger Dec 2012 #139

You are a poor student of history if that is what you actually think. blm Dec 2012 #143

You seem unable to forego calling me names. The Stranger Dec 2012 #145

Baloney. And the 'weak knees' referred specifically to your excessive fearfulness. blm Dec 2012 #147

You're little posting on here is really pathetic. The Stranger Dec 2012 #158

WOW - Did you try to discourage Warren when polls showed Brown unbeatable for 2012, too? blm Dec 2012 #162

thank you, blm n/t MBS Dec 2012 #105

Gee I am sure this would convince Senator Kerry karynnj Dec 2012 #18

See post #139 The Stranger Dec 2012 #140

You completely miss the point - as you did BLM's karynnj Dec 2012 #146

You just don't get it, do you? The Stranger Dec 2012 #159

Politico and polls that also pushed the idea that Brown was unbeatable in 2012, too. blm Dec 2012 #161

Do you remember the 2011 and early 2012 polls? karynnj Dec 2012 #165

That's pretty... YvonneCa Dec 2012 #22

"Small" of Kerry to put his own desires over what's best for the party? The Stranger Dec 2012 #141

I highly doubt that is his motivation. I suggest... YvonneCa Dec 2012 #148

Okay, I'm getting back to you. The Stranger Dec 2012 #160

OMG! *knees shaking* Politico is saying Brown's unbeatable.....just like they did in 2011 and 2012. blm Dec 2012 #163

I do understand the importance of retaining... YvonneCa Dec 2012 #164

If you gave a shit about John Kerry Fearless Dec 2012 #31

I don't know if I give a shit about Kerry or not. The Stranger Dec 2012 #142

He has served in the Senate for 28 years. He has every right to leave politics and become SoS KittyWampus Dec 2012 #132

The problem is that it could cost us a U.S. Senate seat when every single vote there counts The Stranger Dec 2012 #144

I know John Kerry wants the job, and I know he will be really great because he is extremely JDPriestly Dec 2012 #9

Do you really believe Mass Dems will be as inattentive in 2014 as they were in 2010? blm Dec 2012 #13

That's right, Idaho is now the new Mississippi! DRiggs Dec 2012 #47

It won't be in 2014 ... won't there be a special election next few months? Drunken Irishman Dec 2012 #101

'Yes, We Can." YvonneCa Dec 2012 #23

He will not win. Fearless Dec 2012 #26

I think MA Dems will be to blame, not Obama. nt Kahuna Dec 2012 #34

Love the cowardice in this thread. We can hold his damn seat people. Get with it. phleshdef Dec 2012 #11

Thank you! We're supposed to be... YvonneCa Dec 2012 #25

+ 1000 n/t MBS Dec 2012 #106

I'm with you! malibea Dec 2012 #154

Congratulations Sen. Kerry NNguyenMD Dec 2012 #14

I agree. Congratulations... YvonneCa Dec 2012 #29

It Will be 2013, Another Special Election Like they Had in 2009 AndyTiedye Dec 2012 #48

This is untrue. 8 percentage points is not "barely". Arkana Dec 2012 #156

Maybe Warren John2 Dec 2012 #16

Having Warren out there would be a good idea davidpdx Dec 2012 #97

I am curious to see how many repugs who LOVE Kerry now louis-t Dec 2012 #17

I suspect that most of the ones who said they preferred him will karynnj Dec 2012 #19

Nah, they won't ... The entire reason for supporting him is to gain a chance at Senate seat hlthe2b Dec 2012 #21

Not really - almost any Senator nominated gets lots of votes from the other side karynnj Dec 2012 #44

I'm saying he won't be opposed by many if any REPUGS. I can't tell if you are disagreeing with that hlthe2b Dec 2012 #46

Not disagreeing with little opposition - disagreeing that it is just the opportunity to get Brown karynnj Dec 2012 #73

He will be easily confirmed. Blasphemer Dec 2012 #68

Congratulations! Fearless Dec 2012 #24

Right answer! Kahuna Dec 2012 #35

Absolutely! Fearless Dec 2012 #115

"President" Kerry will do a great job. nt humblebum Dec 2012 #28

... YvonneCa Dec 2012 #30

Bad move, imo.............nft plethoro Dec 2012 #32

Really? Not only does Rice give to the nutjobs, then Obama obeys them and Lionessa Dec 2012 #37

I'm not filling Kerry as SOS the man is 70 years old that job need to be given to bigdarryl Dec 2012 #38

Kerry is 69 and at least as fit as HRC was when she started karynnj Dec 2012 #75

Perhaps the administration is not really all that into having progressive majorities in Congress. woo me with science Dec 2012 #39

Your comment makes no sense ProSense Dec 2012 #40

Kerry was liberal and progressive enough that Ted Kennedy went out of his way karynnj Dec 2012 #76

Scott Brown sez: KamaAina Dec 2012 #41

And all his corporate buddies, too. nt woo me with science Dec 2012 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Dec 2012 #52

LOL! His record precedes him. He won't win if Dems run a decent candidate. KittyWampus Dec 2012 #133

Another positive Kerry thread turned into a flamewar politicasista Dec 2012 #45

Still putting up your 'concerns' I see. Typical of you. blm Dec 2012 #50

Read Twitter and you will understand n/t politicasista Dec 2012 #56

You repeating BS doesn't impress me. Your 'concerns' are always the same. blm Dec 2012 #63

And also read the Grio and politicasista Dec 2012 #65

Tuff - they got it wrong and refuse to admit it. Rice was NEVER Obama's 1st pick. blm Dec 2012 #81

As I said, I wish Kerry the best. politicasista Dec 2012 #82

The GRIO link actually said Kerry was Obama's choice - not Rice something I haven't . karynnj Dec 2012 #91

Ok makes sense n/t politicasista Dec 2012 #110

It would be nice if Rice could run for his senate seat allrevvedup Dec 2012 #64

True, politicasista Dec 2012 #66

oops I meant SoS. allrevvedup Dec 2012 #71

He can, but politicasista Dec 2012 #84

Seeing that you respect this source, read this paragraph karynnj Dec 2012 #87

The Grio is a popular politicasista Dec 2012 #94

In that case, read the paragraph karynnj Dec 2012 #102

Went back and re-read it politicasista Dec 2012 #109

the reason is where at least the first two were on the political spectrum karynnj Dec 2012 #130

True n/t politicasista Dec 2012 #153

Sherrod was obviously attacked because she was Black. ieoeja Dec 2012 #157

Here come the swiftboaters and their Fox news allies. Kingofalldems Dec 2012 #49

I don't think so LeftInTX Dec 2012 #54

Attack of the Deaniacs would be my guess. allrevvedup Dec 2012 #59

No, I was talking about a filthy repub group Kingofalldems Dec 2012 #77

"Swift Vets and POWs for Truth formally disbanded allrevvedup Dec 2012 #78

Repubs lie about everything and they have Kingofalldems Dec 2012 #83

Huge difference this time - only 99 people can vote karynnj Dec 2012 #88

I'm not saying they can stop Kerry Kingofalldems Dec 2012 #90

Don't doubt it, but if they do - it backfires when he is easily confirmed karynnj Dec 2012 #98

Beat me to it! allrevvedup Dec 2012 #93

Yes, but this is a Senate confirmation, allrevvedup Dec 2012 #92

I was a hardcore Deaniac in 2004 democrattotheend Dec 2012 #113

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Dec 2012 #51

You've got to be fucking kidding me. MessiahRp Dec 2012 #62

" " " " " n/t MBS Dec 2012 #122

The corporatists are very good at what they do. woo me with science Dec 2012 #85

The legislature passed a special law banning Martha Coakley from running for Senate bluestateguy Dec 2012 #53

I don't like a senator being chosen, but I hope it will change the state dept. for the better. David__77 Dec 2012 #57

Loss of a much needed Senate seat indypaul Dec 2012 #58

Because an incumbent defeated by a freshman in November allrevvedup Dec 2012 #61

Do you live here? Little Star Dec 2012 #67

Let me guess, allrevvedup Dec 2012 #69

Yep. That's what I thought. Little Star Dec 2012 #70

You don't seem to have much faith in MA allrevvedup Dec 2012 #95

Are you bananas? Kerry has been my senator for a long, long time... Little Star Dec 2012 #99

Okay it's risky. Is it fair to ask Kerry to die in office allrevvedup Dec 2012 #100

Brown actually got himself elected in great part due to the.... Little Star Dec 2012 #108

Will do. Massachusetts has turned out some great politicians. allrevvedup Dec 2012 #111

Do YOU live in MA? Cause if you did you'd remember the ONLY reason Brown won in the 1st KittyWampus Dec 2012 #134

Not a surprise. Kerry wanted it the last time Thrill Dec 2012 #103

Not an unexpected choice. Beacool Dec 2012 #107

People giving Brown too much credit railsback Dec 2012 #112

Senator Kerry will bring the United States to a leadership position on Climate Change machI Dec 2012 #118

YES! MBS Dec 2012 #121

This article should be reposted as a new thread. blm Dec 2012 #124

Happy to serve machI Dec 2012 #127

Yes, this article should have its own OP! Cha Dec 2012 #125

Happy to serve machI Dec 2012 #128

Thank you, mach! Cha Dec 2012 #129

This is why McCain tried to pull a feint with Rice. & Wasn't Kerry also instrumental in the patrice Dec 2012 #138

I agree. With video... YvonneCa Dec 2012 #149

Oh, btw, ol Scott Brown has an "A" from the NRA that he might Cha Dec 2012 #126

Kick! n/t Tx4obama Dec 2012 #135

Talk about playing into the Republican's hands.... omg grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #136

NYT HAS NEW DETAILS: alp227 Dec 2012 #137

I just don't understand why Democrats are intimidated by Scott Brown. He just lost!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2012 #150

The Sun-Times seems to be the only source for every single one of these reports. Arkana Dec 2012 #155