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Legal experts warn of 'constitutional crisis' as JD Vance and Elon Musk question judges' authority over Trump [View all]

Source: NBC News

Feb. 9, 2025, 6:00 PM EST

Legal and constitutional experts warned Sunday that the United States could be headed toward a "constitutional crisis" or a "breakdown of the system" after Vice President JD Vance suggested judges don't have jurisdiction over President Donald Trump's "legitimate power."

"If a judge tried to tell a general how to conduct a military operation, that would be illegal. If a judge tried to command the attorney general in how to use her discretion as a prosecutor, that’s also illegal," Vance wrote on X, adding, "Judges aren’t allowed to control the executive’s legitimate power."

It wasn't clear what judge or court order Vance was referring to or whether he was making a broad statement. Several of Trump's sweeping agenda items have met legal roadblocks since he took office.

A spokesperson for Vance didn't respond to questions seeking clarification.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/legal-experts-constitutional-crisis-vance-musk-judicial-rulings-trump-rcna191387

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Legal experts warn of 'constitutional crisis' as JD Vance and Elon Musk question judges' authority over Trump [View all] BumRushDaShow Feb 2025 OP

If judges can be ignored than all the people have to do is seize power from RockRaven Feb 2025 #1

Vance means only special people can ignore judges. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #3

Lenin wrote out precise plans for Socialist movements to replace capitalist ones -- provoke the gov't in power, ... eppur_se_muova Feb 2025 #6

That is it exactly and this is why I wonder if anything can be saved. Tumbulu Feb 2025 #24

United States v Nixon: 9 - 0. speak easy Feb 2025 #2

Let them "question" all they want, but have a firm answer ready. eppur_se_muova Feb 2025 #4

Okay. Let me do it: FUCK OFF VANCE AND MUSK!!!!! C Moon Feb 2025 #5

Yawn. If that couch-humper wants to fight about it truthisfreedom Feb 2025 #7

This is unacceptable creeksneakers2 Feb 2025 #8

Both are hell bent on destroying America liberalgunwilltravel Feb 2025 #9

By ANY means necessary... (n/t) Moostache Feb 2025 #31

If Judges have no authority over presidential orders and Bettie Feb 2025 #10

Vance or Bowman, whoever the hell he is, is full of shit. Checks and balances on the POTUS are essential to avoid hadEnuf Feb 2025 #11

A court can rule that the military can not torture. JohnnyRingo Feb 2025 #12

it's their way of guaranteeing the appeals court looks at this immediately. n/t Calista241 Feb 2025 #13

How about we start with President Musk. He's leading this charge, he can sit in jail on contempt charges? 33taw Feb 2025 #14

The FIRST thing that needs to happen is the jailing of ALL of the Muskovites Moostache Feb 2025 #32

They haven't had a Constitutional Law class. Historic NY Feb 2025 #15

Well, Vance has but... GoYouPackersGo Feb 2025 #18

They sure like it when Trump's supreme court DonCoquixote Feb 2025 #16

Hey Roberts and your other 5 rw Supreme fucks thinking today..................hows that presidential immunity thing turbinetree Feb 2025 #17

Our first line of defense against a criminal president SHOULD be impeachment William Seger Feb 2025 #19

The Supreme Court should be called to immediately issue their order. bluestarone Feb 2025 #20

The Roberts' SCrOTUS rulings have nullified judicial oversight pfitz59 Feb 2025 #21

The USA was founded and the constitution framed on protection from dictators Mysterian Feb 2025 #22

We are Rebl2 Feb 2025 #23

I've been telling anyone who would listen generalbetrayus Feb 2025 #25

There is one possibility BumRushDaShow Feb 2025 #27

JD and others are out there running defense trying to scare us. first rule to fight against tyranny, do NOT obey PortTack Feb 2025 #26

Someone should tell Roberts that he and the rest aren't needed anymore Butterflylady Feb 2025 #28

Marbury v. Madison was a paper tiger all along, a mere ruling. bucolic_frolic Feb 2025 #29

All Vance is telling us is that he's a fascist. mn9driver Feb 2025 #30

SCOTUS should have thought their Deminpenn Feb 2025 #33

We have been in a constitutional crisis since 2020 and it has accelerated every day that Trump has been on the scene Bluetus Feb 2025 #34

I wonder if the SCOTUS will use more pretzel logic and tell us Trump is immune from their decisions while President. jalan48 Feb 2025 #35

Another day, another Trump "constitutional crisis" and "breakdown of the system." sop Feb 2025 #36

Our entire government was set up based on Bettie Feb 2025 #37

I am getting more convinced that our country is going to collapse before the year is over and kimbutgar Feb 2025 #38

Obviously, Musk outranks any judge. Kid Berwyn Feb 2025 #39

I think that H2O Man Feb 2025 #40

Hurtling this way since 22 November 1963. Kid Berwyn Feb 2025 #41

This Is A Good Comment Baron2024 Feb 2025 #48

Less than a month in, and we already have a constitutional crisis sakabatou Feb 2025 #42

This entire fucking worthless administration has been one gigantic constitutional crisis after another. Initech Feb 2025 #43

"headed towards?" I feel like we've been in one since 1972. Pacifist Patriot Feb 2025 #44

If they can simply be ignored, what good are they? What good is the entire system? Gods know there were plenty of court Karasu Feb 2025 #45

What did JD Vance learn in Yale law school? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2025 #46

"What did JD Vance learn in Yale law school?" BumRushDaShow Feb 2025 #47

No, he didn't learn a thing about how to dress in drag! ShazzieB Feb 2025 #50

LOL BumRushDaShow Feb 2025 #52

I agree we're headed for a constituional crisis, if not already there, but what does that actually mean? ShazzieB Feb 2025 #49

What crisis? Trump thinks he's above the law. Kid Berwyn Feb 2025 #51

Surprised? Well, SCOTUS did rule that a sitting POTUS can do anything he wants. Aussie105 Feb 2025 #53

Misses The Point DallasNE Feb 2025 #54

Impeachment and Removal of Judges: An Explainer LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2025 #55