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eppur_se_muova

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6. Lenin wrote out precise plans for Socialist movements to replace capitalist ones -- provoke the gov't in power, ...
Mon Feb 10, 2025, 05:56 AM
Feb 2025

convince the masses you are on their side and will make life better for them, harass those in power into becoming more intolerant and oppressive, and sooner or later the ruled will turn to open revolution to overthrow the rulers.

The very first time I heard all this, it immediately occurred to me that there is nothing in this plan to guarantee that the party taking over is in any way sincere in its purported intentions, only its real intention to grab power. Oligarchy A is replaced by Oligarchy B. New boss same as the old boss. Promised Workers' Paradise never arrives.

Turnip is taking a different approach -- still empty promises and agitprop BS for the unwashed masses, but the nature of it is different; it has to be, because he is replacing a whole system that actually works when it's not being obstinately thwarted with one which is nothing but an unrealisable fantasy, and he doesn't even notice that what's being introduced by his "subordinate" has a lot of features he never planned on (and still doesn't care about). Meanwhile, the real revolution is carried out by willing collaborators installed by the Radical Right over the previous decades. They've been waiting in place for the corrupting propaganda of Limbaugh, Murdoch, Cessbook, Xitter, etc. to weaken the system by brainwashing the masses into believing they really want a dictator, despite more than two centuries of opposing dictators with our blood and treasure. The present crop of dictator-fluffers representing red states in Congress demonstrate over and over that they have found the abuser of their dreams and will stick with him to the death of democracy.

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If judges can be ignored than all the people have to do is seize power from RockRaven Feb 2025 #1
Vance means only special people can ignore judges. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #3
Lenin wrote out precise plans for Socialist movements to replace capitalist ones -- provoke the gov't in power, ... eppur_se_muova Feb 2025 #6
That is it exactly and this is why I wonder if anything can be saved. Tumbulu Feb 2025 #24
United States v Nixon: 9 - 0. speak easy Feb 2025 #2
Let them "question" all they want, but have a firm answer ready. eppur_se_muova Feb 2025 #4
Okay. Let me do it: FUCK OFF VANCE AND MUSK!!!!! C Moon Feb 2025 #5
Yawn. If that couch-humper wants to fight about it truthisfreedom Feb 2025 #7
This is unacceptable creeksneakers2 Feb 2025 #8
Both are hell bent on destroying America liberalgunwilltravel Feb 2025 #9
By ANY means necessary... (n/t) Moostache Feb 2025 #31
If Judges have no authority over presidential orders and Bettie Feb 2025 #10
Vance or Bowman, whoever the hell he is, is full of shit. Checks and balances on the POTUS are essential to avoid hadEnuf Feb 2025 #11
A court can rule that the military can not torture. JohnnyRingo Feb 2025 #12
it's their way of guaranteeing the appeals court looks at this immediately. n/t Calista241 Feb 2025 #13
How about we start with President Musk. He's leading this charge, he can sit in jail on contempt charges? 33taw Feb 2025 #14
The FIRST thing that needs to happen is the jailing of ALL of the Muskovites Moostache Feb 2025 #32
They haven't had a Constitutional Law class. Historic NY Feb 2025 #15
Well, Vance has but... GoYouPackersGo Feb 2025 #18
They sure like it when Trump's supreme court DonCoquixote Feb 2025 #16
Hey Roberts and your other 5 rw Supreme fucks thinking today..................hows that presidential immunity thing turbinetree Feb 2025 #17
Our first line of defense against a criminal president SHOULD be impeachment William Seger Feb 2025 #19
The Supreme Court should be called to immediately issue their order. bluestarone Feb 2025 #20
The Roberts' SCrOTUS rulings have nullified judicial oversight pfitz59 Feb 2025 #21
The USA was founded and the constitution framed on protection from dictators Mysterian Feb 2025 #22
We are Rebl2 Feb 2025 #23
I've been telling anyone who would listen generalbetrayus Feb 2025 #25
There is one possibility BumRushDaShow Feb 2025 #27
JD and others are out there running defense trying to scare us. first rule to fight against tyranny, do NOT obey PortTack Feb 2025 #26
Someone should tell Roberts that he and the rest aren't needed anymore Butterflylady Feb 2025 #28
Marbury v. Madison was a paper tiger all along, a mere ruling. bucolic_frolic Feb 2025 #29
All Vance is telling us is that he's a fascist. mn9driver Feb 2025 #30
SCOTUS should have thought their Deminpenn Feb 2025 #33
We have been in a constitutional crisis since 2020 and it has accelerated every day that Trump has been on the scene Bluetus Feb 2025 #34
I wonder if the SCOTUS will use more pretzel logic and tell us Trump is immune from their decisions while President. jalan48 Feb 2025 #35
Another day, another Trump "constitutional crisis" and "breakdown of the system." sop Feb 2025 #36
Our entire government was set up based on Bettie Feb 2025 #37
I am getting more convinced that our country is going to collapse before the year is over and kimbutgar Feb 2025 #38
Obviously, Musk outranks any judge. Kid Berwyn Feb 2025 #39
I think that H2O Man Feb 2025 #40
Hurtling this way since 22 November 1963. Kid Berwyn Feb 2025 #41
This Is A Good Comment Baron2024 Feb 2025 #48
Less than a month in, and we already have a constitutional crisis sakabatou Feb 2025 #42
This entire fucking worthless administration has been one gigantic constitutional crisis after another. Initech Feb 2025 #43
"headed towards?" I feel like we've been in one since 1972. Pacifist Patriot Feb 2025 #44
If they can simply be ignored, what good are they? What good is the entire system? Gods know there were plenty of court Karasu Feb 2025 #45
What did JD Vance learn in Yale law school? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2025 #46
"What did JD Vance learn in Yale law school?" BumRushDaShow Feb 2025 #47
No, he didn't learn a thing about how to dress in drag! ShazzieB Feb 2025 #50
LOL BumRushDaShow Feb 2025 #52
I agree we're headed for a constituional crisis, if not already there, but what does that actually mean? ShazzieB Feb 2025 #49
What crisis? Trump thinks he's above the law. Kid Berwyn Feb 2025 #51
Surprised? Well, SCOTUS did rule that a sitting POTUS can do anything he wants. Aussie105 Feb 2025 #53
Misses The Point DallasNE Feb 2025 #54
Impeachment and Removal of Judges: An Explainer LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2025 #55
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