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In reply to the discussion: Gohmert: ‘I wish to God’ Connecticut principal had an M4 assault rifle [View all]caseymoz
(5,763 posts)110. What she did, that's called fight.
Yes, by comparison, charging the shooter is the more natural thing to do.
Maybe it's the term "fight or flight that confused you. This is a term neuro-biologists to describe what out sympathetic nervous system pushes us to do in a stressful situation. Shooting is not "fight" in a primal sense. It's a trained skill.
I didn't say what soldiers do is irrelevant. Where the hell did you get that? What soldiers do is a skill. You can't just pick up a gun, spend a few hours at the shooting range, and do it.
Reread what I wrote, because almost all of it seems have gotten by you. To perform with any reliability under combat stress you have to have a lot of training, (and some experience). To shoot straight when you're being shot at takes a even more training, much more than just target practice.
If you reread it, you'd see that I wrote this:
"Soldiers have to train in a unit, with group reinforcement, to learn how to hold a position and return fire. And in their first encounter with fire, they'll freeze."
How did you read that and think I was saying what soldiers do is irrelevant?
In case this is unclear, I meant they learn the skill of standing under fire from group reinforcement. They can carry that into individual action, but that's the way the skill is trained into them.
I'm saying it takes group reinforcement (or some other technique) to learn to overcome your natural instincts in a shooting. You can also freeze undecided between fight and flight, and that's usually what happens in battle with green units.
(BTW, this is irrelevant, because I've said the fight or flight instincts explained her mode of heroism either way: but there's been no verification yet that she died charging anybody. It's still a rumor. Who saw it? Who in that room survived, and how? How were they out of sight and still in a position to see her?
It's possible that she did it, but you should really use verified facts when you try to picture how people really behave in such a situations. We try to turn horror stories into hero stories as quickly as possible. We do it so we can stand the grief of meaningless killing. That doesn't mean the hero stories are what usually happen.)
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Gohmert: ‘I wish to God’ Connecticut principal had an M4 assault rifle [View all]
DonViejo
Dec 2012
OP
how could you forget michelle bachmann? virginia foxx? jean schmidt? (first three I could
niyad
Dec 2012
#89
The principal was dead before she would have had a chance to access a weapon.
PA Democrat
Dec 2012
#3
Exactly. Even in a republicant dystopia where the principal was dressed to kill, literally,
R. Daneel Olivaw
Dec 2012
#16
My state didn't proposed seceding from the union when a black man was elected President.
llmart
Dec 2012
#119
Every state has their version of Gohmert Pyle, just not as many of them! We do have more than our
Dustlawyer
Dec 2012
#122
Doesn't he..of course he doesn't..he's an idiot of gigantic size..not everyone is capable of killing
shraby
Dec 2012
#5
“Every mass killing ... has been in a place where guns were prohibited - except one..."
Richardo
Dec 2012
#6
True, but I think the NRA took the opposite lesson away from that attack...
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2012
#132
Actually, I believe the majority of Christians are good people without enough spine
randr
Dec 2012
#22
It is not the first time that the Bushmaster was used for murder in the USA.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Dec 2012
#19
is it my imagination, or is he implying that it is actually her fault, and that of the other
niyad
Dec 2012
#18
Then that monster would have had more guns and ammo after he killed the principal
thelordofhell
Dec 2012
#38
why would I listen to someone from a state who won't even provide healthcare to its most needy?
still_one
Dec 2012
#51
I read she was in a meeting in a conference room. A gun in her office would not have helped.
Lucinda
Dec 2012
#65
And you know what, Louie? She didn't. Know why? Cause she was a grade school principal.
hatrack
Dec 2012
#67
If the NRA claims they preach keeping guns at home LOCKED UP and secure to prevent accidents
bulloney
Dec 2012
#131
SO does this mean he'd want to increase the education budget to purchase the weapons and ...
JoePhilly
Dec 2012
#82
well, his dc office voicemail is full (now THERE is a surprise) but his tx line isn't.
niyad
Dec 2012
#86
"... The following items are strictly prohibited in the Capitol ... Guns ..."
struggle4progress
Dec 2012
#88
And i wish that the supreme court had let the vote be counted in florida in 2000 ....
Botany
Dec 2012
#91
Louie didn't consider the possibility of the shooter getting the drop on an armed principal
MrScorpio
Dec 2012
#97
And yet, it's people calling for even limited review of our regulations on firearms that are
FVZA_Colonel
Dec 2012
#101
She charged an armed man barehanded and you think a story about what most soldiers do
TPaine7
Dec 2012
#108
Or a grenade. Taking the pin out and waiting to die seems more realistic than his hairbrained idea.
truthisfreedom
Dec 2012
#111
Assumes that a school principal could use an M4 in that situation without taking even more
yellowcanine
Dec 2012
#133
hey Gohmert, don't ya kinda wish that every country could have it's own nuke, too?
toby jo
Dec 2012
#136