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17. That actually IS evidence.

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 07:12 PM

Dec 2012

I asked you if you could provide some that shows a detrimental effect to armed individuals opposing an active shooter. The most reliable way to end a shooting is for the dirtbag to encounter armed resistance. They usually self-destruct when they do. I can provide umpteen examples of that actually happening.

Wanting to honestly assess the risk of crossfires or confusion when LEO arrive on-site, I have looked for instances of such bad effects. I have found none. Again, I ask you to provide some.

I don't care what the NRA's view is. In fact, I'm pretty sure I have now opposed the NRA's view on at least the point of arming teachers, if I understand the news reports of the NRA's support for the Texas law allowing teachers to carry. So, I'm going to dismiss your criticism as unfounded on that point.

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Most Back Ban on High-Capacity Clips [View all] Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 OP

I have a 40 cal Springfield XDM with two 16 round magazines doc03 Dec 2012 #1

Question BainsBane Dec 2012 #7

Let's say you had to pin down some shithead, like the Trolley Square shooting. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #8

You're not a cop BainsBane Dec 2012 #9

The two individuals that opposed the TS shooter were not acting in their capacity as law enforcement AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #11

So you agree with Louie Gohmert that teachers should be armed with machine guns? BainsBane Dec 2012 #12

I am not in favor of arming teachers. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #13

that is not evidence BainsBane Dec 2012 #16

That actually IS evidence. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #17

the problemw with having just 1 police Dokkie Dec 2012 #35

Actually, that's not true. pintobean Dec 2012 #18

August 2012 Ineeda Dec 2012 #43

Historically, joe citizen has FAR higher accuracy or hit ratio than police officers. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #44

"NYPD has a training issue." Yes, and a political ignorance issue. Bloomberg has mandated AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #52

I agree 100% reading that makes me uncomfortable about the doc03 Dec 2012 #15

The Clakamas Mall shooting was stopped by a citizen lbrtbell Dec 2012 #26

Where's the validation that only the police are sufficiently trained? For example, there are plenty 24601 Dec 2012 #27

well it certainly puts to rest the meme BainsBane Dec 2012 #28

No one here has advocated breaking any laws. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #37

I fully support citizen action to prevent crime in some cases UndahCovah Dec 2012 #30

Until you can guarantee safety for me and my family, I will thank you to STFU about what I pop topcan Dec 2012 #34

Jesus Christ. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2012 #23

Well, it's not up to you. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #25

Its good to be prepared for ANYTHING UndahCovah Dec 2012 #31

Ok. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2012 #36

I like to shoot now and then, it's a grown-up toy. I suppose I could use it if someone doc03 Dec 2012 #14

My state doesn't have that at all. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #19

The training on the laws amounted to here's the laws if you would doc03 Dec 2012 #21

In Texas you can almost light somebody up for TPing your house UndahCovah Dec 2012 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author Blandocyte Dec 2012 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author Blandocyte Dec 2012 #42

Can't & Won't be done now... SkyDaddy7 Dec 2012 #2

Now ... only if Adam Lanza cosmicone Dec 2012 #6

I know you were being funny but... SkyDaddy7 Dec 2012 #39

I agree, there seems to be a group of people that want to blame Obama for everything loyalkydem Dec 2012 #3

Yep, if they do pass such a law RoccoR5955 Dec 2012 #4

Good idea. Slow 'em down. Leave that for war zones. Then eliminate the wars, too... freshwest Dec 2012 #5

NOW fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #10

Boy, this thread brought out the loons. onehandle Dec 2012 #20

Then people would just load their magazines by hand. DesMoinesDem Dec 2012 #22

None of my clips hold over 10 rounds, so ban away. PavePusher Dec 2012 #24

My magazine will eat two of your clips Brother Buzz Dec 2012 #33

Stop trying to spoil the joke. sigh. n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #45

LOL I see what you did there. Dr_Scholl Dec 2012 #46

TGFGN's ThoughtCriminal Dec 2012 #29

Depends. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #38

Thanks. I typed my reply, below, before I read to the end of the thread. I'll check out the link... truth2power Dec 2012 #48

Could you please explain the difference? Thanks. I'm trying to educate myself, here... truth2power Dec 2012 #47

Ten round ammunition clip machI Dec 2012 #40

Since the ban will not be retroactive hack89 Dec 2012 #49

Good. You can sleep well tonight. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #50

You are missing the point hack89 Dec 2012 #51