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15. The long slide is not over by a long shot, and neither is the tariffs problem
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 10:21 AM
Apr 10

(I wrote this in reply to someone who sounded like with the big tariffs rollback, and the big nearly double-digit percentage climb in the markets, that the markets were getting back to normal. I thought I'd attach a copy here in this subthread about the market )

The S&P 500 closed Wednesday April 9 at 5457, up 9.5% for the day,
and down 5.6% from the 5783 election day closing level,
and down 9.0% from the inauguration-eve level,
and down 7.2% year-to-date,
and down 11.2% from its all-time closing high of 6144 on Feb 19.

The S&P 500 is almost but not quite back to where it was on April 2
so it's not like it has recouped the whole slide since February 19, nor will it.
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EGSPC/history/

Just so people understand that the "tRump trade" is still plenty underwater.

As for the tariffs - they are still the highest in a century. Not counting China. The 125% tariffs on China will have a big impact on prices and supply chains if it is kept on.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220225255
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220225270

The S&P 500 is down by 2.7% as I post 10:23 AM ET 4/10. Not a humongous drop, but the wrong direction for supposedly fixing the tariffs problem. Dow down 2.4% (966 points)

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Give it a month. Mump didn't remove the tariffs. He reduced them to 10%. And increased the tariffs on China to 125%. Scrivener7 Apr 10 #1
The futures market has noticed that 10% is still there and are all down this morning BumRushDaShow Apr 10 #2
Yes. It looks like SOME people said, "Wait. Wut??" after that first wave of relief. Scrivener7 Apr 10 #4
Or did the futures market realize what really happened yesterday? gab13by13 Apr 10 #7
And the garage is actively aflame. Scrivener7 Apr 10 #9
This "on again, off again" tariffs thing BumRushDaShow Apr 10 #10
The long slide is not over by a long shot, and neither is the tariffs problem progree Apr 10 #15
Are these the real numbers or Krasnov numbers? gab13by13 Apr 10 #3
Always a good question. Scrivener7 Apr 10 #6
The update had some more info and apparently the main driver crude oil price drops BumRushDaShow Apr 10 #11
Simple question - has the BLS been taken over by Trumpy sycophants or appointees?? NoMoreRepugs Apr 10 #5
Especially since Krasnov gab13by13 Apr 10 #8
THIS is the kind of shit that scares the hell out of me. This is a BFD and is high up in the Dicktater's playbook. Cheezoholic Apr 10 #20
Getting an answer to this is problematic RussBLib Apr 10 #19
Inflation eases when people stop buying stuff. nt Jit423 Apr 10 #12
Who sez? Marthe48 Apr 10 #13
Me too. I have zero consumer confidence. bronxiteforever Apr 10 #14
Thank you Joe Biden. mdbl Apr 10 #16
GRAPHS CPI: Rolling 3 month averages and month-over-month, all are annualized progree Apr 10 #17
Assuming they aren't manipulating these numbers, too relayerbob Apr 10 #18
Hmm IbogaProject Apr 10 #21
I don't know how people are faring across the country or . . . peggysue2 Apr 10 #22
At least you don't have a state sales tax! BumRushDaShow Apr 10 #23
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