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In reply to the discussion: Iowa Court: Bosses Can Fire 'Irresistible' Workers [View all]happyslug
(14,779 posts)15. actual Opinion
http://www.iowacourts.gov/Supreme_Court/Recent_Opinions/20121221/11-1857.pdf
She was a ten year employee and they were exchanging text messages, the facts are intersting and may be the reason for the decision. The Section of the opinion in regards to the facts:
Because this case was decided on summary judgment, we set forth the facts in the light most favorable to the plaintiff, Melissa Nelson.
In 1999, Dr. Knight1 hired Nelson to work as a dental assistant in his dental office. At that time, Nelson had just received her community college degree and was twenty years old.
Over the next ten-and-a-half years, Nelson worked as a dental assistant for Dr. Knight. Dr. Knight admits that Nelson was a good dental assistant. Nelson in turn acknowledges that Dr. Knight generally treated her with respect, and she believed him to be a person of high integrity.
On several occasions during the last year and a half when Nelson worked in the office, Dr. Knight complained to Nelson that her clothing was too tight and revealing and distracting. Dr. Knight at times asked Nelson to put on her lab coat. Dr. Knight later testified that he made these statements to Nelson because I dont think its good for me to see her wearing things that accentuate her body. Nelson denies that her clothing was tight or in any way inappropriate.
2
During the last six months or so of Nelsons employment, Dr. Knight and Nelson started texting each other on both work and personal matters outside the workplace. Neither objected to the others texting. Both Dr. Knight and Nelson have children, and some of the texts involved updates on the kids activities and other relatively innocuous matters. Nelson considered Dr. Knight to be a friend and father figure, and she denies that she ever flirted with him or sought an intimate or sexual relationship with him.
Dr. Knight acknowledges he once told Nelson that if she saw his pants bulging, she would know her clothing was too revealing. On another occasion, Dr. Knight texted Nelson saying the shirt she had worn that day was too tight. After Nelson responded that she did not think he was being fair, Dr. Knight replied that it was a good thing Nelson did not wear tight pants too because then he would get it coming and going. Dr. Knight also recalls that after Nelson allegedly made a statement regarding infrequency in her sex life, he responded to her, [T]hats like having a Lamborghini in the garage and never driving it. Nelson recalls that Dr. Knight once texted her to ask how often she experienced an orgasm. Nelson did not answer the text. However, Nelson does not remember ever telling Dr. Knight not to text her or telling him that she was offended.
In late 2009, Dr. Knight took his children to Colorado for Christmas vacation. Dr. Knights wife Jeanne, who was also an employee in the dental practice, stayed home. Jeanne Knight found out that her husband and Nelson were texting each other during that time. When Dr. Knight returned home, Jeanne Knight confronted her husband and demanded that he terminate Nelsons employment. Both of them consulted with the senior pastor of their church, who agreed with the decision.
Jeanne Knight insisted that her husband terminate Nelson because she was a big threat to our marriage. According to her affidavit and her deposition testimony, she had several complaints about Nelson. These included Nelsons texting with Dr. Knight, Nelsons clothing, Nelsons alleged flirting with Dr. Knight, Nelsons alleged coldness at work toward her (Ms. Knight), and Nelsons ongoing criticism of another dental assistant. She added that [Nelson] liked to hang around after work when it would be just her and [Dr. Knight] there. I thought it was strange that after being at work all day and away from her kids and husband that she would not be anxious to get home like the other [women] in the office.
At the end of the workday on January 4, 2010, Dr. Knight called Nelson into his office. He had arranged for another pastor from the church to be present as an observer. Dr. Knight told Nelson he was firing her, reading from a prepared statement. The statement said, in part, that their relationship had become a detriment to Dr. Knights family and that for the best interests of both Dr. Knight and his family and Nelson and her family, the two of them should not work together. Dr. Knight handed Nelson an envelope which contained one months severance pay. Nelson started crying and said she loved her job.
Nelsons husband Steve phoned Dr. Knight after getting the news of his wifes firing. Dr. Knight initially refused to talk to Steve Nelson, but later called back and invited him to meet at the office later that same evening. Once again, the pastor was present. In the meeting, Dr. Knight
told Steve Nelson that Melissa Nelson had not done anything wrong or inappropriate and that she was the best dental assistant he ever had. However, Dr. Knight said he was worried he was getting too personally attached to her. Dr. Knight told Steve Nelson that nothing was going on but that he feared he would try to have an affair with her down the road if he did not fire her.
Dr. Knight replaced Nelson with another female. Historically, all of his dental assistants have been women.
After timely filing a civil rights complaint and getting a right to sue letter from the Iowa Civil Rights Commission, Nelson brought this action against Dr. Knight on August 12, 2010. Nelsons one-count petition alleges that Dr. Knight discriminated against her on the basis of sex. Nelson does not contend that her employer committed sexual harassment. See McElroy v. State, 637 N.W.2d 488, 499500 (Iowa 2001) (discussing when sexual harassment amounts to unlawful sex discrimination and restating the elements of both quid pro quo and hostile work environment sexual harassment). Her argument, rather, is that Dr. Knight terminated her because of her gender and would not have terminated her if she was male.
Dr. Knight moved for summary judgment. After briefing and oral argument, the district court sustained the motion. The court reasoned in part, Ms. Nelson was fired not because of her gender but because she was threat to the marriage of Dr. Knight. Nelson appeals.
Footnotes:
1We will refer to the defendants Dr. James Knight and James H. Knight DDS, P.C. collectively as Dr. Knight.
2Nelson recalls that Dr. Knight said her clothing was too distracting and that he may have asked her to put on her lab coat. In any event, she testified that she put on a coat whenever Dr. Knight complained to her about her clothing.
She was a ten year employee and they were exchanging text messages, the facts are intersting and may be the reason for the decision. The Section of the opinion in regards to the facts:
Because this case was decided on summary judgment, we set forth the facts in the light most favorable to the plaintiff, Melissa Nelson.
In 1999, Dr. Knight1 hired Nelson to work as a dental assistant in his dental office. At that time, Nelson had just received her community college degree and was twenty years old.
Over the next ten-and-a-half years, Nelson worked as a dental assistant for Dr. Knight. Dr. Knight admits that Nelson was a good dental assistant. Nelson in turn acknowledges that Dr. Knight generally treated her with respect, and she believed him to be a person of high integrity.
On several occasions during the last year and a half when Nelson worked in the office, Dr. Knight complained to Nelson that her clothing was too tight and revealing and distracting. Dr. Knight at times asked Nelson to put on her lab coat. Dr. Knight later testified that he made these statements to Nelson because I dont think its good for me to see her wearing things that accentuate her body. Nelson denies that her clothing was tight or in any way inappropriate.
2
During the last six months or so of Nelsons employment, Dr. Knight and Nelson started texting each other on both work and personal matters outside the workplace. Neither objected to the others texting. Both Dr. Knight and Nelson have children, and some of the texts involved updates on the kids activities and other relatively innocuous matters. Nelson considered Dr. Knight to be a friend and father figure, and she denies that she ever flirted with him or sought an intimate or sexual relationship with him.
Dr. Knight acknowledges he once told Nelson that if she saw his pants bulging, she would know her clothing was too revealing. On another occasion, Dr. Knight texted Nelson saying the shirt she had worn that day was too tight. After Nelson responded that she did not think he was being fair, Dr. Knight replied that it was a good thing Nelson did not wear tight pants too because then he would get it coming and going. Dr. Knight also recalls that after Nelson allegedly made a statement regarding infrequency in her sex life, he responded to her, [T]hats like having a Lamborghini in the garage and never driving it. Nelson recalls that Dr. Knight once texted her to ask how often she experienced an orgasm. Nelson did not answer the text. However, Nelson does not remember ever telling Dr. Knight not to text her or telling him that she was offended.
In late 2009, Dr. Knight took his children to Colorado for Christmas vacation. Dr. Knights wife Jeanne, who was also an employee in the dental practice, stayed home. Jeanne Knight found out that her husband and Nelson were texting each other during that time. When Dr. Knight returned home, Jeanne Knight confronted her husband and demanded that he terminate Nelsons employment. Both of them consulted with the senior pastor of their church, who agreed with the decision.
Jeanne Knight insisted that her husband terminate Nelson because she was a big threat to our marriage. According to her affidavit and her deposition testimony, she had several complaints about Nelson. These included Nelsons texting with Dr. Knight, Nelsons clothing, Nelsons alleged flirting with Dr. Knight, Nelsons alleged coldness at work toward her (Ms. Knight), and Nelsons ongoing criticism of another dental assistant. She added that [Nelson] liked to hang around after work when it would be just her and [Dr. Knight] there. I thought it was strange that after being at work all day and away from her kids and husband that she would not be anxious to get home like the other [women] in the office.
At the end of the workday on January 4, 2010, Dr. Knight called Nelson into his office. He had arranged for another pastor from the church to be present as an observer. Dr. Knight told Nelson he was firing her, reading from a prepared statement. The statement said, in part, that their relationship had become a detriment to Dr. Knights family and that for the best interests of both Dr. Knight and his family and Nelson and her family, the two of them should not work together. Dr. Knight handed Nelson an envelope which contained one months severance pay. Nelson started crying and said she loved her job.
Nelsons husband Steve phoned Dr. Knight after getting the news of his wifes firing. Dr. Knight initially refused to talk to Steve Nelson, but later called back and invited him to meet at the office later that same evening. Once again, the pastor was present. In the meeting, Dr. Knight
told Steve Nelson that Melissa Nelson had not done anything wrong or inappropriate and that she was the best dental assistant he ever had. However, Dr. Knight said he was worried he was getting too personally attached to her. Dr. Knight told Steve Nelson that nothing was going on but that he feared he would try to have an affair with her down the road if he did not fire her.
Dr. Knight replaced Nelson with another female. Historically, all of his dental assistants have been women.
After timely filing a civil rights complaint and getting a right to sue letter from the Iowa Civil Rights Commission, Nelson brought this action against Dr. Knight on August 12, 2010. Nelsons one-count petition alleges that Dr. Knight discriminated against her on the basis of sex. Nelson does not contend that her employer committed sexual harassment. See McElroy v. State, 637 N.W.2d 488, 499500 (Iowa 2001) (discussing when sexual harassment amounts to unlawful sex discrimination and restating the elements of both quid pro quo and hostile work environment sexual harassment). Her argument, rather, is that Dr. Knight terminated her because of her gender and would not have terminated her if she was male.
Dr. Knight moved for summary judgment. After briefing and oral argument, the district court sustained the motion. The court reasoned in part, Ms. Nelson was fired not because of her gender but because she was threat to the marriage of Dr. Knight. Nelson appeals.
Footnotes:
1We will refer to the defendants Dr. James Knight and James H. Knight DDS, P.C. collectively as Dr. Knight.
2Nelson recalls that Dr. Knight said her clothing was too distracting and that he may have asked her to put on her lab coat. In any event, she testified that she put on a coat whenever Dr. Knight complained to her about her clothing.
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Okay...Let's see how it goes when a woman fires the first MAN for being "irresistible". n/t
whathehell
Dec 2012
#2
We had a guy ask that a new woman be fired because his wife didn't want them travelling together
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Dec 2012
#3
so their pastor said it was okay to fire this stellar employee, eh? way to go, rev, you sexist jerk
niyad
Dec 2012
#4
The Knights consulted with their pastor, who agreed that terminating Nelson was appropriate.
Kolesar
Dec 2012
#13
you know. it is not like i really NEED to be married. he could just go his own way. nt
seabeyond
Dec 2012
#66
So the dentist is saying, "I am so very weak, that I wouldnt be able to control myself."
rhett o rick
Dec 2012
#14
Why can't the dentist just medicate himself with saltpeter on days when the woman is there?
yellowcanine
Dec 2012
#28
Ah, so WHY was she hired in the 1st place? Must have been BEFORE the WIFE saw her!
benld74
Dec 2012
#32
So, this woman should loose everything because a rich dentist has no self control?
Ash_F
Dec 2012
#33
Yeah. I guess there was a bong party in the ISC chambers or something to that level.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Dec 2012
#44
So much for the party of personal responsibility. I read today about some of his comments over .....
marble falls
Dec 2012
#62
I'm just curious if the wife chose the patients, so they didn't interfere with their marriage?
Frustratedlady
Dec 2012
#54
9 out of 10 Dentists recommend you end your practice of dentistry..asshat. n/t
Jefferson23
Dec 2012
#58
Hmmm...does this mean my wife has to approve the coeds who enroll in my classes?
Sancho
Dec 2012
#59
given the dentist's comments about "you make my pants bulge" and others, sounds like he fired
niyad
Dec 2012
#63
Workers without a contract can be fired for anything that falls outside of illegal discrimination
Major Nikon
Dec 2012
#64
At will employment = Fired for any reason, for no reason, or even for an immoral reason,...
Land Shark
Dec 2012
#67