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38. Sorry to say that's actually a relevant question, given certain chaotic trends that have produced a

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:33 PM

Dec 2012

whole cohort (which some of us think is heavily represented amongst bourgeosie anarchists) that is NOT kidding about their hopes to see all of the detritus disposed of one way or another, so suicide by one means or another is just fine & and Civil War II is just the ticket for a couple of issue-cohorts (anti-Choice & LGBTQ hate & Red Dawn paranoia) in their milieu. The working-class sense/know this, but the source object of what they sense is diffuse, so it is possible to mistake what's going on and get suckered by those who don't have your best interests at heart and may even be actively supporting the sorts of things that create incidents such as the one reported in this story.

BTW, I saw some of this up close and personal this last year; I have taught high school, some of it for wealthy parents and I have an absolutely enormous family, so I have seen a lot.

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Toddler dies after accidentally shooting himself with grandfather's gun [View all] SharonAnn Dec 2012 OP

Grandfather should get JesterCS Dec 2012 #1

Agreed, and he very likely will. Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #6

In many states it's only a misdemeanor taxpayer2000 Dec 2012 #34

seriously? BainsBane Dec 2012 #59

Sadly yes taxpayer2000 Dec 2012 #68

maybe the grandfather suffers from alzeimer's? samsingh Dec 2012 #72

Here's the local story. southerncrone Dec 2012 #93

Guns don't kill people Sky Masterson Dec 2012 #2

A Self-Deportation Moment bucolic_frolic Dec 2012 #23

He must have been mentally ill. harmonicon Dec 2012 #37

Clearly, there should be a policeman in every grandfather's house. nilram Dec 2012 #51

Yep, why wasn't that cop there, was he loafing around, an armed cop RKP5637 Dec 2012 #52

the NRA should pay for all the increased policing samsingh Dec 2012 #73

They better check that toddlers hardrive SummerSnow Dec 2012 #104

So sad. We have to find a way to stop this. AllyCat Dec 2012 #3

Damn,,,, benld74 Dec 2012 #4

Clearly it was because the toddler played Call of Duty while on antidepressants! Scootaloo Dec 2012 #5

The Grandfather better be charged Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #7

i bet grandpa thought he was responsible. bettyellen Dec 2012 #8

If only the grandfather had *another* gun in the house... valerief Dec 2012 #9

Obviously a mentally ill toddler Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #10

The Price We Pay for Freedom, Ma'am.... The Magistrate Dec 2012 #11

the nra agrees! Garion_55 Dec 2012 #15

Is that real? n/t Ed Suspicious Dec 2012 #22

nah. tough to tell though huh? Garion_55 Dec 2012 #36

I had same question. Revealing that we have to ask that anymore. 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #40

that's too close to the actual "press conference" tavalon Dec 2012 #42

Didn't you hear? BainsBane Dec 2012 #62

Praise the lord and pass the ammo. Yeehaw! Dash87 Dec 2012 #56

I hope grandpa is charged with involuntary manslaughter or negligent homicide. Leaving a LibDemAlways Dec 2012 #12

Yes, he should get actual time in prison, not probation. mbperrin Dec 2012 #14

This wouldn't have happened if there had been an armed Good Guy� Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #13

you forgot that the "armed good guy" has to be NRA trained Botany Dec 2012 #31

If that toddler had read the 10 commandments this wouldn't have happened Android3.14 Dec 2012 #16

Just feel physically ill when I hear stories like this. Arkansas Granny Dec 2012 #17

The toddler must have been a master gun safe cracker. JimDandy Dec 2012 #18

Im confused Throckmorton Dec 2012 #19

Sorry to say that's actually a relevant question, given certain chaotic trends that have produced a patrice Dec 2012 #38

What? Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #100

Yes. there. are. patrice Dec 2012 #101

I love my father but if he had left a firearm out where my child could get to it... progressoid Dec 2012 #20

My father did... ReRe Dec 2012 #29

That is a powerful story and so timely. 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #43

There's nothing more to say about it... ReRe Dec 2012 #45

Jeez ReRe. progressoid Dec 2012 #91

Hey, my dad made his choices... ReRe Dec 2012 #95

And yet another irresponsible gun owner murders another child. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #21

Yes. That trigger might as well have been pulled by the grandfather himself. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #46

Sad. This will probably tear the family apart. nt ZombieHorde Dec 2012 #24

Another "Opps" Gun Death otohara Dec 2012 #25

Without a gun he'd have found another way to kill himself Doctor_J Dec 2012 #26

Nothing new to see here... Kalidurga Dec 2012 #27

H*O*W?? Does a grandfather do something like that? Is alcohol involved? I mean HOW is this possible? patrice Dec 2012 #28

2nd toddler killed the same way 3 days ago. So sad. go west young man Dec 2012 #30

In the USA guns kill 8 kids a DAY. :( Sunlei Dec 2012 #65

Is Grandpa still glad he got that gun? tblue Dec 2012 #32

One word describes this incident... ReRe Dec 2012 #33

More guns can't possibly increase accidental shootings.... Evasporque Dec 2012 #35

Since it is likely there will not be homicide charges in this case logosoco Dec 2012 #39

Damn it all tavalon Dec 2012 #41

B-b-but, guns don't kill people. Shadowflash Dec 2012 #44

If gramps had had another gun in the house he could have prevented this. Just ask the NRA appleannie1 Dec 2012 #47

Innocent little baby... Melinda Dec 2012 #48

I would love to see the NRA or the Right Wing try... the devil Dec 2012 #49

Are the guns left on the coffee table? zebrastripe Dec 2012 #50

horrible... SoapBox Dec 2012 #53

If you own guns, keep them properly stored. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #54

My husband, nearly in tears, apologized to me for not putting a gun lock on... Tikki Dec 2012 #74

Waiting for LaPierre to come out and say we need armed guards at all homes of grandparents. jillan Dec 2012 #55

Some on DU claim that accidental deaths don't count BainsBane Dec 2012 #57

A .40 caliber is almost certainly a semi automatic Fumesucker Dec 2012 #58

Fixed it for you: ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #75

Keep sucking GeorgeGist Dec 2012 #85

Wayne? Is that you? Fumesucker Dec 2012 #96

tragic. However, this should be felony negligence. Sunlei Dec 2012 #60

And of course, this sort of thing SheilaT Dec 2012 #61

Great suggestions. Hell, you need insurance to drive a car, why not insurance to have a gun? nt SunSeeker Dec 2012 #69

In Japan.. Toronto Dec 2012 #79

Don't see any good reason why we can't have a similar SheilaT Dec 2012 #88

You probably could Toronto Dec 2012 #105

responsible heaven05 Dec 2012 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author Bad_Ronald Dec 2012 #64

Good thing it was savalez Dec 2012 #66

Nailed it. crim son Dec 2012 #67

Actually if it had been grandpa's dog exboyfil Dec 2012 #77

No offense but you are kinda missing my point. savalez Dec 2012 #103

Gun safe. truthisfreedom Dec 2012 #70

Aw damn, that poor kid& family. All the replies here make me sick and I agree with them all also uppityperson Dec 2012 #71

At least Grandpa has his freedumb and 2A rights. I'm sure that's a big comfort to the family Dems to Win Dec 2012 #76

Just another statistic Squaredeal Dec 2012 #78

Toddlers die to protect the Second Amendment in America. Routinely. Dems to Win Dec 2012 #80

Does anyone else find it perverse Toronto Dec 2012 #81

SSDD. AngryOldDem Dec 2012 #82

This happens so often. Chemisse Dec 2012 #83

Only if the toddler had been trained in the use of firearms cosmicone Dec 2012 #84

A couple of stories mimi85 Dec 2012 #87

I'm so sorry you had to put up with that. Still Blue in PDX Dec 2012 #98

Well, obviously . . . OldRedneck Dec 2012 #86

looks like the coockoo bird gun nutters are losing the argument fascisthunter Dec 2012 #89

Is a small pistol safe too much to ask? ileus Dec 2012 #90

funny you should ask. CTyankee Dec 2012 #92

Obviously the solution is an armed guard in every grandfather's home Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #94

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Crunchy Frog Dec 2012 #97

Except that yesterday... primavera Dec 2012 #99

If that kid was armed, this would not have happened! ... Deep13 Dec 2012 #102