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Xithras

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71. This really doesn't have much to do with right-to-work states...

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 08:50 PM

Dec 2012

...other than the fact that a union can protect you from these kinds of abuses. Even here in California, where I live, any at-will employee can be fired without notice for any reason whatsoever. Only union workers, and workers with contracts specifying terms for termination, have any recourse. The only exception, of course, are terminations for legally protected reasons (i.e., you can't fire someone because they're black, or female, etc.)

I hate to say it, but a California judge would have probably made the same ruling. "Pretty" is not a protected class.

On the other hand, it seems like she has a iron-clad sexual harassment case against the guy, so I'm not sure why she isn't pursuing that route. He apparently told her not to dress too sexy around the office, and when she asked what "too sexy" meant, he said that if she saw a "tent in his pants", it was too sexy. UMM....HELLO?!?!?! Can you say Hostile Work Environment?

It sounds to me like this lady really just needs a better lawyer. He pursued a longshot case when she's got a sure-thing sitting right there!

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Iowa Court: Bosses Can Fire 'Irresistible' Workers [View all] Eric the Reddish Dec 2012 OP

Well that explains why I've been fired, like, 20 times jberryhill Dec 2012 #1

DUzy, for sure! Bozita Dec 2012 #38

You too sexy for your briefs (n/t) William Seger Dec 2012 #41

I get favorable rulings on my motions! jberryhill Dec 2012 #47

Bravo cntrfthrs Dec 2012 #52

Okay...Let's see how it goes when a woman fires the first MAN for being "irresistible". n/t whathehell Dec 2012 #2

Agreed. dballance Dec 2012 #53

We had a guy ask that a new woman be fired because his wife didn't want them travelling together Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2012 #3

so their pastor said it was okay to fire this stellar employee, eh? way to go, rev, you sexist jerk niyad Dec 2012 #4

The Knights consulted with their pastor, who agreed that terminating Nelson was appropriate. Kolesar Dec 2012 #13

The Christian Version of Shariah Law Eric the Reddish Dec 2012 #25

Can workers sue "irresistable" bosses Coyotl Dec 2012 #5

Sounds like a viable way to get out of an employment contract now. JimDandy Dec 2012 #17

Better to marry than burn--St. Paul, Corinthians Demeter Dec 2012 #60

if it wasn't already, that'll be an awkward office to work in bloomington-lib Dec 2012 #6

To the rest of the employees: You are resistible. progressoid Dec 2012 #11

I know right! Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #48

you know. it is not like i really NEED to be married. he could just go his own way. nt seabeyond Dec 2012 #66

Is Iowa a "Right-to-Work" state? TheDebbieDee Dec 2012 #7

THANK YOU. nt raccoon Dec 2012 #57

That's "employment at will" not "right to work" Jim Lane Dec 2012 #72

It's the same rationale for the bhurka, isn't it? evlbstrd Dec 2012 #8

Exactly. Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #20

Well, alrighty then. n/t BlueToTheBone Dec 2012 #9

hmmmm PatrynXX Dec 2012 #10

So the dentist would have been equally likely to find a man attractive? spooky3 Dec 2012 #12

So the dentist is saying, "I am so very weak, that I wouldnt be able to control myself." rhett o rick Dec 2012 #14

actual Opinion happyslug Dec 2012 #15

Alright. Two things. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #22

I agree. It is sexual harassment, and why weren't women on that jury? wordpix Dec 2012 #35

Sickening. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #40

I never imagined the details would make the decison even MORE offensive Blasphemer Dec 2012 #51

Well I got it now Scairp Dec 2012 #29

Looks like sexual harassment. Ash_F Dec 2012 #34

if I were her I would appeal and sue the pants off this male harasser wordpix Dec 2012 #36

A few opitions, but mostly she is done happyslug Dec 2012 #45

Yep. And you know sexual harrassment is always the fault of the victim. tanyev Dec 2012 #61

Looks like he hired her and the wife Kingofalldems Dec 2012 #16

After working for the Dentist for ten years AND exchanging texts messages happyslug Dec 2012 #19

So help me here.... Red Mountain Dec 2012 #18

Are you F@CKIN kidding? R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #21

This Is Why People Form Unions: Stopping Discrimination and Arbitrary Firing Yavin4 Dec 2012 #23

I couldn't agree with you more. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #24

Simply, Irresistible... Xipe Totec Dec 2012 #26

my old dentist's wife KT2000 Dec 2012 #27

Why can't the dentist just medicate himself with saltpeter on days when the woman is there? yellowcanine Dec 2012 #28

I suspect this is headed to Federal Court. yellowcanine Dec 2012 #30

not to mention that ISC is nothing but men! Not a jury of her peers wordpix Dec 2012 #37

Beware of the succubus! TexasTowelie Dec 2012 #31

Ah, so WHY was she hired in the 1st place? Must have been BEFORE the WIFE saw her! benld74 Dec 2012 #32

The woman and the wife worked together for 10 years happyslug Dec 2012 #50

U are correct hs, I missed the post benld74 Dec 2012 #65

So, this woman should loose everything because a rich dentist has no self control? Ash_F Dec 2012 #33

This case is hauntingly familliar of cases in India where R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #42

How about an "irressistable attraction" defense for, say. rapists???? marble falls Dec 2012 #39

Yeah. I guess there was a bong party in the ISC chambers or something to that level. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #44

So much for the party of personal responsibility. I read today about some of his comments over ..... marble falls Dec 2012 #62

I don't particularly have a problem with terminating her cosmicone Dec 2012 #43

"I don't particularly have a problem with terminating her." R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #46

Sure cosmicone Dec 2012 #55

This really doesn't have much to do with right-to-work states... Xithras Dec 2012 #71

So the court said that gender has no basis in attraction legitimacy? Fearless Dec 2012 #49

I'm just curious if the wife chose the patients, so they didn't interfere with their marriage? Frustratedlady Dec 2012 #54

I thought gays getting married was the big threat to marriage. tclambert Dec 2012 #56

9 out of 10 Dentists recommend you end your practice of dentistry..asshat. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2012 #58

Hmmm...does this mean my wife has to approve the coeds who enroll in my classes? Sancho Dec 2012 #59

given the dentist's comments about "you make my pants bulge" and others, sounds like he fired niyad Dec 2012 #63

Workers without a contract can be fired for anything that falls outside of illegal discrimination Major Nikon Dec 2012 #64

At will employment = Fired for any reason, for no reason, or even for an immoral reason,... Land Shark Dec 2012 #67

Show me a picture of her!! RussBLib Dec 2012 #68

this is sooo stupid samsingh Dec 2012 #69

I'm too sexy for my job ... sunnystarr Dec 2012 #70

That makes me feel so much better about getting fired. leftyladyfrommo Dec 2012 #73