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In reply to the discussion: NRA: We will oppose semi-automatic weapons ban [View all]NickB79
(20,388 posts)82. I never said I agree with it, just that's what the law says
Though I would note that this conflict was brought up before the Supreme Court recently, and they found it not an issue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
Under both of the collective rights models, the opening phrase was considered essential as a pre-condition for the main clause.[118] These interpretations held that this was a grammar structure that was common during that era[119] and that this grammar dictated that the Second Amendment protected a collective right to firearms to the extent necessary for militia duty.[120]
Under the standard model, the opening phrase was believed to be prefatory or amplifying to the operative clause. The opening phrase was meant as a non-exclusive exampleone of many reasons for the amendment.[20] This interpretation was consistent with the position that the Second Amendment protects a modified individual right.[121]
The question of a collective rights versus an individual right was progressively resolved with the 2001 Fifth Circuit ruling in United States v. Emerson, in the 2008 Supreme Court ruling in District of Columbia v. Heller, and in the 2010 Supreme Court ruling in McDonald v. Chicago. These rulings upheld the individual rights model when interpreting the Second Amendment. In Heller, the Supreme Court upheld the Second Amendment as protecting an individual right.[122] Although the Second Amendment is the only Constitutional amendment with a prefatory clause, such constructions were widely used elsewhere.[123]
The term "regulated" means "disciplined" or "trained".[124] In Heller, the U.S. Supreme Court stated that "[t]he adjective 'well-regulated' implies nothing more than the imposition of proper discipline and training."[125]
Under the standard model, the opening phrase was believed to be prefatory or amplifying to the operative clause. The opening phrase was meant as a non-exclusive exampleone of many reasons for the amendment.[20] This interpretation was consistent with the position that the Second Amendment protects a modified individual right.[121]
The question of a collective rights versus an individual right was progressively resolved with the 2001 Fifth Circuit ruling in United States v. Emerson, in the 2008 Supreme Court ruling in District of Columbia v. Heller, and in the 2010 Supreme Court ruling in McDonald v. Chicago. These rulings upheld the individual rights model when interpreting the Second Amendment. In Heller, the Supreme Court upheld the Second Amendment as protecting an individual right.[122] Although the Second Amendment is the only Constitutional amendment with a prefatory clause, such constructions were widely used elsewhere.[123]
The term "regulated" means "disciplined" or "trained".[124] In Heller, the U.S. Supreme Court stated that "[t]he adjective 'well-regulated' implies nothing more than the imposition of proper discipline and training."[125]
So basically, you are "well-regulated" if you allow yourself to be properly disciplined and trained if so called upon by the government in time of need.
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I'm condemning bigoted gun lovers who think more guns is a good response to Sandy Hook.
Hoyt
Dec 2012
#11
should it be legal for people to build and sell bombs and accessories, even if they've never blown
Voice for Peace
Dec 2012
#41
The fact gun lovers are attracted to them. They are produced and marketed to appeal to gun culture'
Hoyt
Dec 2012
#37
That's just it, where I live the folks arming up are bigots afraid minorities are going to get them.
Hoyt
Dec 2012
#86
So, your need to shoot multiple bullets a minute into a target trumps society's need to be safe from
beac
Dec 2012
#14
As I've said, 'these objects' refer to 'the awb and magazine ban' referred to by poster.
elleng
Dec 2012
#71
"the unorganized militia" So, you are claiming "unorganized" is now a synonym for "well-regulated"?
beac
Dec 2012
#79
a) We're gonna have to disagree on "peaceful" and b) just because something is "popular"
beac
Dec 2012
#81
The NRA, Gun Apologists And DU Sympathizers Should Be Ashamed, Shamed And Shunned
cantbeserious
Dec 2012
#4
So, water still wet and the NRA still the nationwide marketing arm of weapons manufacturers.
beac
Dec 2012
#8
NRA just turned from responsible gun safety education to ME ME ME MINE MINE I'LL BLAST YOU AWAY!
Panasonic
Dec 2012
#9
Keene sounds like a racist. Oh, he is the NRA person...yup, he is a racist.
graham4anything
Dec 2012
#26
If you need 30 round clips to kill you are a lousey shot, period. You don't need that kind of weapon
loyalkydem
Dec 2012
#46
this from an org that shields criminals by opposing background checks, not surprised. PUKE
wordpix
Dec 2012
#45
Dayum, I sure do want to know who AL was gaming with!! What if we're looking at an NRA conspiracy to
patrice
Dec 2012
#51
NRA: We will oppose logical reasoning, common sense, and any semblance of morality
Zoeisright
Jan 2013
#112