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38. All plants and animals are genetically modified...

Reply to KT2000 (Reply #31)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 08:45 PM

Dec 2012

... and all domesticated agricultural plants and animals have been DELIBERATELY genetically modified through selective breading. This has been going on for millenia without any understanding of protein folding whatsoever at all. Nothing bad has happened. On the contrary, without the use of deliberate genetic modification, humanity would probably have died out long ago.

As an example, many farmed varieties of salmon already have twice the growth rate of wild salmon due to selective breading... that is, deliberate genetic modification.

The AquAdvantage salmon uses a growth hormone regulating gene from a Pacific Chinook salmon and a promoter gene from an ocean pout. In other words, these are genetic elements found in nature and introduced into a related fish - like cross breading.

I don't think we have anything to worry about.

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FDA Quietly Pushes Through Genetically Modified Salmon over Christmas Break [View all] 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 OP

"He HAS to know this shit is going on" FiveGoodMen Dec 2012 #1

Not really. He has big fish to fry. Coyotl Dec 2012 #4

On this one issue, sure. FiveGoodMen Dec 2012 #5

He knows and perhaps is even actively pushing it. Big $$$ you know. Integrity of the food chainr byeya Dec 2012 #10

Watch your mouth Sonny, jerseyjack Dec 2012 #35

Yes. There would have been sharp intakes of breath; and the arched eyebrows of censure. I might even byeya Dec 2012 #97

So you are saying "The buck stops over there"? rhett o rick Dec 2012 #7

Precisely, not every decision crosses Obama's desk. D'oh! Coyotl Dec 2012 #11

He is responsible. He has staff to keep him informed. He appointed Mr. Monsanto for a reason and rhett o rick Dec 2012 #18

he did choose the monsanto lawyer. he knows who he put in charge. robinlynne Dec 2012 #22

Micheal Taylor is not the first Monsanto Lobbyist he had appointed to run a regulatory agency. bvar22 Dec 2012 #32

On specific issues perhaps. On the general tone... TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #49

He appointed a Monsanto CEO to head the FDA. cui bono Dec 2012 #101

knowing does not mean he or his family will eat it lunasun Dec 2012 #19

I have wondered if he is kept isolated from a lot of things. glinda Dec 2012 #70

President Obama reformed FDA, it had not been changed for 70 years. Sunlei Dec 2012 #85

The second Bush made substantial cuts in the number of inspectors and other areas. glinda Dec 2012 #87

yes the rule that allow pet poison to remain on store shelves, is because of lobbyist control Sunlei Dec 2012 #90

Combination lobbyists and lack of inspections. glinda Dec 2012 #110

this is remarkably dumb pscot Dec 2012 #2

they think they are god, and have an irresistible urge to keep doing the things that make money Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #6

They are willing to kill the goose and the rest of us, for a buck. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #8

This is remarkably smart... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #12

farm raised salmon are often sick KT2000 Dec 2012 #15

Nope. No joke... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #25

all this sounds like a stilted selection of talking points from a carefully prepared ad campaign Alamuti Lotus Dec 2012 #106

I take exception... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #108

Penned salmon escape all the time pscot Dec 2012 #16

AquAdvantage will be cultivating... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #21

tell me - KT2000 Dec 2012 #31

All plants and animals are genetically modified... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #38

selective breeding is not GE KT2000 Dec 2012 #56

I'd suggest you take a basic college biology class NickB79 Dec 2012 #64

Injecting the DNA KT2000 Dec 2012 #72

The most common DNA transmission route is via plasmids NickB79 Dec 2012 #78

+100 Thanks for your posts. Informative and factual. (nt) reACTIONary Dec 2012 #89

Gotta get some use out of this biochem degree :-) NT NickB79 Dec 2012 #92

Intentionally adding genetic material from another organism is not selective breeding as it's been byeya Dec 2012 #98

You are right, selective breeding is not gentic engineering... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #65

Thanks Texano78704 Dec 2012 #74

better make sure KT2000 Dec 2012 #77

Not so much throwing it out a window as much as simple concern with unintended consequences... LanternWaste Dec 2012 #95

Not exactly specific KT2000 Dec 2012 #75

"useful analogy and indication" - famous last words...along the lines of "too cheap to meter" with byeya Dec 2012 #99

No one is claiming that salmon will be so plentiful... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #107

Fascinating -- Repackaged "Creation Science" LTX Dec 2012 #94

Silliness KT2000 Dec 2012 #100

You could ask the same if you cross-bred two cattle NickB79 Dec 2012 #45

No - see post #56 KT2000 Dec 2012 #57

false AlecBGreen Dec 2012 #102

I'm sure there are agricultural techniques that are less harmful than others... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #104

Mutant corporate 'food' = Mutant corporate 'people' Berlum Dec 2012 #82

One of these days they'll push one too many times and the people will push back in the bloomington-lib Dec 2012 #3

What makes you think profits were a consideration in this case? reACTIONary Dec 2012 #27

cynicism basically. If they can do it in other cases, they can do it in this one. bloomington-lib Dec 2012 #50

I'm not sure what you mean, but... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #63

Ignorant or shill? Examine the FDA's track record... TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #55

If you want me to examine the FDA's track record... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #62

No great failures perhaps, but a death by 1000 cuts... TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #71

they'll push one too many times and the people will push back lunasun Dec 2012 #28

not true, just yet. we still have about a month to submit public comment hopemountain Dec 2012 #9

Here come the FrankenFish! SoapBox Dec 2012 #13

It's just a salmon. It just reaches full size sooner. Its no big deal. (nt) reACTIONary Dec 2012 #67

I just started a petition at the White House site--PLEASE randr Dec 2012 #14

Done! n/t KT2000 Dec 2012 #17

Done! cal04 Dec 2012 #23

I've signed many of these classykaren Dec 2012 #24

done! nt Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #80

Done! montanacowboy Dec 2012 #20

these fish should be kept to farm stock only azurnoir Dec 2012 #26

The plan is to produce... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #29

Yeah - doesn't sound very appetizing Chemisse Dec 2012 #36

Approximatly 69% of world salmon consumption... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #41

I was referring to the eel in the GM'd salmon. Chemisse Dec 2012 #43

It's not eel; it's eel pout NickB79 Dec 2012 #48

in my neck of the woods eelpout is listed as a 'rough fish' by the MN DNR azurnoir Dec 2012 #53

Aquaculture and GMO Salmon Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #61

You are right, they are two different things... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #68

I love salmon but not sam-eel azurnoir Dec 2012 #52

Done classykaren Dec 2012 #30

It sounds like sulphurdunn Dec 2012 #33

Yuck. Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #40

Since about 1990, most of the growth in fishing... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #46

Mutant Crapola Corporate foodlike product will turn us all into Zombies Berlum Dec 2012 #34

Foodlike products. Many of our foods are headed in that direction. Chemisse Dec 2012 #37

This makes me really, really angry. Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #39

Makes me really, really hungry. (nt) reACTIONary Dec 2012 #42

I just prefer real salmon Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #47

In an ideal world, I would too NickB79 Dec 2012 #51

+10 !!! (NT) reACTIONary Dec 2012 #69

we have more than enough food and land to feed the world AlecBGreen Dec 2012 #103

Maybe so, but apparently... reACTIONary Dec 2012 #105

Your choice - nothing wrong with that. (nt) reACTIONary Dec 2012 #66

And the salmon industry thanks you. nt blaze Dec 2012 #58

Last holiday break the NDDA was signed on new year's eve lunasun Dec 2012 #44

Angry enough to protest in the streets????? n/t Hotler Dec 2012 #59

Angry enough to fill my freezer with real salmon. Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #60

Breaking? littlemissmartypants Dec 2012 #54

This administration has done something I never thought possible..... DeSwiss Dec 2012 #73

Every once in a while Don gets something right. Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #79

"Nation of Change"? Tarheel_Dem Dec 2012 #76

I think the key word to explain the sources is "...Quietly..." 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #111

Don't forget that in addition to Taylor, Monsanto have an ally in Clarence Thomas, SCOTUS judge Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #81

Hey it's easy, I just won't eat salmon anymore. No big deal. MrYikes Dec 2012 #83

That article was badly written. Sunlei Dec 2012 #84

ASIAN CARP B-ONE Lancer Dec 2012 #86

great documentary on linktv last night: the world according to monsanto backtoblue Dec 2012 #88

Why be so terrified? LisaL Dec 2012 #91

No surprise here, as all presidents since Reagan serve the corporations! dmosh42 Dec 2012 #93

Frankenfish.....nt Evasporque Dec 2012 #96

Whatever happened to Jeremy Rifkin? undeterred Dec 2012 #109