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12. GRAPHS (words still in progress)
Thu Aug 14, 2025, 10:18 AM
Aug 2025

Last edited Thu Aug 14, 2025, 12:56 PM - Edit history (1)

The values in the graphs are calculated using the actual index numbers, not from the rounded-off-to-a-single-digit monthly changes.
The annualization calculations also takes into account compounding.
As an example, the reported 0.9% increase for the PPI in July -- someone downstream annualized that by simply multiplying that number by 12 to get 10.8%

In contrast, I put in the index numbers from http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/WPSFD4 into my spreadsheet (via copy and paste).
June: 148.270
July: 149.671
% change: +0.9448978%
1.009448978^12 = 1.1194700 , then subtract 1 and multiply by 100% = 11.95%
So 11.95%.

Simply multiplying the 0.9448978% by 12 yields 11.34%
So the compounding added 0.61 percentage points to it

PPI


Core PPI (PPI less food, energy, and trade services)
I use the Core PPI less food, energy, and trade services because that's what the BLS highlights (and that was true pre-Krasnov too), so I am doing likewise. The idea of the core is to remove the volatile components that bounce up and down a lot from month to month, so that's another reason to use the core PPI less food, energy, and trade services to project FUTURE inflation trends, and that's why the Fed focuses on core measures.


12 month graphs from OP. The graph's labeling says the core is PPI less food, energy, and trade services


PPI http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/WPSFD4
Core PPI (wo food, energy, trade services) http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/WPSFD49116
Core PPI (wo food & energy) http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/WPSFD49104
You can see graphs at the above links too -- chose More Fomatting Options at the upper right of the page and then check boxes like 1 Month, 3 Month, 12 Month


Probably has a similar wide-eyed reaction to today's numbers.

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well twodogsbarking Aug 2025 #1
Fire the PPI coordinator! Immediately! Prairie Gates Aug 2025 #2
Inflation shock: Producer prices rise more than forecast as core inflation hits 3-year high in July mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2025 #3
Oddly enough BumRushDaShow Aug 2025 #4
Yeah, it takes awhile for rising or falling prices to work their way Deminpenn Aug 2025 #22
I think it was a month or two ago BumRushDaShow Aug 2025 #23
Prices bromeando Aug 2025 #5
Trump will blame it on Biden RazorbackExpat Aug 2025 #6
Not shocking at all Johnny2X2X Aug 2025 #7
Oops chicoescuela Aug 2025 #8
Sounds right. onenote Aug 2025 #9
Kick BlueWavePsych Aug 2025 #10
Here come the serious impacts from the tariffs... Wiz Imp Aug 2025 #11
GRAPHS (words still in progress) progree Aug 2025 #12
umm... Trump has not fired another person from BLS yet?? and it has been hours since Report released!! riversedge Aug 2025 #13
They're NOT eating the tariffs !! dweller Aug 2025 #14
Some businesses are not passing Deminpenn Aug 2025 #24
.9% in a single month works out to 10.8% per year. Buckle your seatbelts. This ride is just getting started. Midnight Writer Aug 2025 #15
Just the beginning Nigrum Cattus Aug 2025 #16
I doubt this was a surprise to Fed Chairman Powell. Gimpyknee Aug 2025 #17
The world's #1 economy. czarjak Aug 2025 #18
This Is Exactly Where I Would Expect To See The First Wave Of Tariff Inflation To Hit. DallasNE Aug 2025 #19
That's 10.8% annual inflation Nigrum Cattus Aug 2025 #20
BLS Discontinues Selected PPIs (lots & lots of them) progree Aug 2025 #21
Wholesale fresh and dry vegetables up 38.9% from June to July. progree Aug 2025 #25
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