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Wiz Imp

(10,753 posts)
81. He's either lying or repeating numbers which somebody else lied about.
Tue Aug 26, 2025, 04:25 PM
Aug 2025

From ChatGPT (in this case, I think it gives a solid response to the question "are there 5,000 peer-reviewed studies that point to vaccine-related injuries"?

There is no credible evidence supporting the claim that there are 5,000 peer-reviewed studies proving vaccine-related injuries in the sense that vaccines cause widespread harm. While vaccines, like any medical intervention, can have side effects, the vast majority of these side effects are rare, mild, and temporary, such as soreness at the injection site or a mild fever. Serious side effects, like severe allergic reactions, are extremely rare.

The overwhelming consensus from the scientific and medical communities, based on decades of research and millions of doses administered, is that vaccines are both safe and effective. Thousands of peer-reviewed studies confirm that the benefits of vaccination far outweigh the risks, especially when it comes to preventing serious diseases like measles, polio, and COVID-19.

The idea that there are 5,000 studies specifically pointing to vaccine-related injuries might stem from misinformation or misinterpretation of the available data. There are studies that explore and monitor vaccine safety, but these are typically part of ongoing safety surveillance systems that ensure vaccines do not pose a significant risk to public health.


My guess is RFK Jr and the anti-vaxers use the the 5000 number because most studies on vaccines find there can be some adverse side-effects from vaccines. However, probably 99% of those studies conclude any harmful effects are exceedingly rare and vaccines are extraordinarily safe. But RFK Jr implies that these studies find that vaccines are dangerous which totally misrepresents the true findings of the studies.

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Oh? Tell me who is SUPERIOR to "experts" then . . . . . no_hypocrisy Aug 2025 #1
R effin' K jr does his own research. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2025 #4
... on RW internet. marble falls Aug 2025 #10
Trust is not a feature of science hueymahl Aug 2025 #13
Really? Who exactly do you trust for information?nt Phoenix61 Aug 2025 #17
That poster is correct. yardwork Aug 2025 #39
Excellent point! biophile Aug 2025 #31
"Many of the experts?" vanlassie Aug 2025 #37
Former NEJM editor, others feel the same biophile Aug 2025 #50
You have not substantiated your statement. vanlassie Aug 2025 #56
My opinion/belief has nothing to do with science dpibel Aug 2025 #35
I think you're both right but saying things differently. yardwork Aug 2025 #40
That is not what it is about Nasruddin Aug 2025 #64
De worm. IrishAfricanAmerican Aug 2025 #20
We need to define "expert." sop Aug 2025 #36
also need to account for "experts" that go off the deep end cadoman Aug 2025 #41
Peer review is necessary, in all fields, particularly journalism. "Expertise" should stand up to scrutiny. sop Aug 2025 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Aug 2025 #72
But ignoring the experts *is* a feature of authoritarianism.... unblock Aug 2025 #2
Why yes it is. mgardener Aug 2025 #6
I think you have it backwards pcdb Aug 2025 #61
Yes, but authoritarians are even more blatantly, and literally, all about the appeal to authority fallacy unblock Aug 2025 #62
It's complex. Often in court cases both sides have experts. womanofthehills Aug 2025 #73
In ordinary times, and in ordinary disputes, there are indeed experts on opposite sides unblock Aug 2025 #75
Trusting only the "experts" who agree with your crackpot beliefs is not science. tanyev Aug 2025 #3
Very true Rebl2 Aug 2025 #42
This guy is a fuck9ng disaster. johnnyfins Aug 2025 #5
Think about all the charitable entities Mr. Evil Aug 2025 #29
This man is a gd dangerous idiot. Experts are science based. Irish_Dem Aug 2025 #7
Well... OldBaldy1701E Aug 2025 #15
I am assuming we are talking about real experts not frauds. Irish_Dem Aug 2025 #66
Exactly. OldBaldy1701E Aug 2025 #67
If you research studies online - experts have very differing opinions & studies womanofthehills Aug 2025 #74
How much of his brain did that worm eat? oasis Aug 2025 #8
Or it's all worm shit...n/t the nelm Aug 2025 #34
Part of it Rebl2 Aug 2025 #43
The only thing in there to being with WAS the worm. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Aug 2025 #60
But pulling it from his butt and reading woooo on the internet is science. He had to have been switched at birth ... marble falls Aug 2025 #9
Bobby Jr: "You can't control the amount of energy that everybody is getting." area51 Aug 2025 #11
I saw that too... Moostache Aug 2025 #45
I read that and nearly did a spit take. maxsolomon Aug 2025 #59
What is this sick, deranged fuck doing, in charge of the nation's health? Paladin Aug 2025 #12
Trump knew he was an idiot. Birds of a feather..... twodogsbarking Aug 2025 #14
Kennedy appears to be very "new agey" in his thinking.. LiberalArkie Aug 2025 #16
I don't Rebl2 Aug 2025 #44
This guy's better than Buckaroo Bonzai. nt BootinUp Aug 2025 #18
HEY! Don't insult Buckaroo Banzai that way. HE was a real neurosurgeon, physicist ms liberty Aug 2025 #25
No matter where you go, there you are..... Bayard Aug 2025 #46
"Trusting the experts is not a feature of either a science or democracy," Kennedy said." MLWR Aug 2025 #19
Unfuckingbelievable. NNadir Aug 2025 #21
"control the amount of energy"??? WTAF??? LymphocyteLover Aug 2025 #22
Right?!?! NickB79 Aug 2025 #82
'Murica truly is the land of opportunity, even an anti-vax conspiracy theorist long term heroin user ..... groundloop Aug 2025 #23
You need to put that on a T-shirt and sell it. Dem2theMax Aug 2025 #58
Yet he expects us to trust the expert heroin junky. truthisfreedom Aug 2025 #24
Don't trust science, but trust an idiot. Nothing new here. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Firestorm49 Aug 2025 #26
Trusting a brain damaged ex junkie isn't either Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2025 #27
And listening to you, Boobie, is far worse. Get a real job, like Chief Bottle Washer at an aluminum plant. Wonder Why Aug 2025 #28
Fuck that freakshow fool Blue Owl Aug 2025 #30
He's gonna kill so fucking many of us. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2025 #32
But scrutinizing the evidence is C_U_L8R Aug 2025 #33
But trusting an idiot who believes in quack medicine is? Dave Bowman Aug 2025 #38
For anyone who missed it the first time around, Bayard Aug 2025 #47
Trusting the experts is not a feature of either a science or democracy? patphil Aug 2025 #48
I 100% agree. (nt) oasis Aug 2025 #70
Trusting one who think he knows more than the experts is very foolish. republianmushroom Aug 2025 #49
Trusting an idiot is not science. milestogo Aug 2025 #51
Thinking like this could up-end many things bucolic_frolic Aug 2025 #52
For some reason, magical thinking is Haggard Celine Aug 2025 #57
"5,000 peer-reviewed studies" Who reviewed them? Just whoever? underpants Aug 2025 #54
He's either lying or repeating numbers which somebody else lied about. Wiz Imp Aug 2025 #81
Vax research gfarber Aug 2025 #55
So instead of experts Nasruddin Aug 2025 #63
Trusting Brain Worm Bobby BlueMTexpat Aug 2025 #65
My high school biology asks: What the F--k is he talking about? How much energy is in a dead virus? What? rickyhall Aug 2025 #68
... He said, in his capacity as a self-proclaimed EXPERT?????? BurnDoubt Aug 2025 #69
Research funding wasn't canceled? Nt BadgerKid Aug 2025 #71
When Congress returns snowybirdie Aug 2025 #76
Yo! Worm brain! -misanthroptimist Aug 2025 #77
Effin anti-vaxxers Torchlight Aug 2025 #78
How could this happen in the United States of America? Mysterian Aug 2025 #79
Put your money where your mouth is, RKF Jr: The experts say gravity is a thing. Aristus Aug 2025 #80
Brain worms rotted his brain VGNonly Aug 2025 #83
'Trusting the experts is not science' Conjuay Aug 2025 #84
Yeah, look at all the experts in science we've trusted since the Dark Ages Oeditpus Rex Aug 2025 #85
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