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AverageOldGuy

(4,180 posts)
13. They are not there to deal with crime
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 06:45 PM
Sep 2025

They are there as a dry run for Trump's use of the military to seize voting equipment and records during and after the November 2026 and 2028 elections.

After it was clear he lost the 2020 election, Trump demanded that then Secretary of Defense Esper and Attorney General Barr use the military to seize voting equipment and records.

An executive order was drafted in December 2020 citing phony claims about election fraud and voting machines. The order, complete with a dotted line ready for Trump's signature, directed the SECDEF to "seize, collect, retain and analyze all machines, equipment, electronically stored information, and material records required for retention" under a law that relates to preserving election records. Fortunately, Esper and Barr stood firm and Trump backed down.

Today, the SECDEF and AG are Trump toadies who are partners in his scheme to end free elections.

Earlier, several times on the 2024 campaign trail, Trump told his audiences to vote in 2024 and “you won’t need to vote again.” Now we are seeing his scheme come together -- this is just practice.

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Hopefully word spreads among the Military Bread and Circuses Sep 2025 #1
It will never get to the head of the military HarryM Sep 2025 #31
Ages ago, bamagal62 Sep 2025 #2
The foot patrols are probably helping lower violent crime, albeit temporarily. maxsolomon Sep 2025 #3
But they haven't been deployed in those areas where that is happening BumRushDaShow Sep 2025 #5
Here's a Mother Jones article which backs up what you're saying BaronChocula Sep 2025 #6
Thanks! BumRushDaShow Sep 2025 #7
They could stroll over to the whitehouse Captain Zero Sep 2025 #16
If I had a dime for every time I thought that BaronChocula Sep 2025 #24
If ya need something to do and can't figure out what that is, BidenRocks Sep 2025 #28
Not surprised. maxsolomon Sep 2025 #9
My mom had gone to Howard her first 2 years of college in the early '50s BumRushDaShow Sep 2025 #10
Their Governors bent the knee to Trump. If they voted bronxiteforever Sep 2025 #4
What about Los Angeles, California? Hekate Sep 2025 #20
Their Governor is fighting it in court bronxiteforever Sep 2025 #35
Screw them angrychair Sep 2025 #8
What do you mean by go home? Do you mean to go AWOL and desert? reACTIONary Sep 2025 #12
The issues has been made clear angrychair Sep 2025 #14
That's your opinion... It may even be OUR opinion... reACTIONary Sep 2025 #15
I saw the lawsuit angrychair Sep 2025 #18
The dc attorney general an elected position, independent of the mayor.... reACTIONary Sep 2025 #19
An order is illegal only if it is an order to commit a crime. TomSlick Sep 2025 #27
Except that James48 Sep 2025 #29
The Posse Comitatus Act is based on command responsibility. TomSlick Sep 2025 #37
Thanks for the explanation. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #36
They are National Guard, not Trump's personal thugs in ICE. They help in national disasters... Hekate Sep 2025 #21
Everyone has choices angrychair Sep 2025 #25
Then aim your blame to the leaders actually responsible Hekate Sep 2025 #26
Optics ... thats all that matters to president bonespurs IcyPeas Sep 2025 #11
They are not there to deal with crime AverageOldGuy Sep 2025 #13
Hopefully Rebl2 Sep 2025 #17
They decide to not re-up, in that case, and is already happening. That's a major diff from going AWOL. Hekate Sep 2025 #22
Any time you see one in action shout "Is this what you signed up for?" . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #33
I feel bad for those soldiers who didn't vote for the Orange assclown, as for the MAGAssclown soldiers who did.... Crowman2009 Sep 2025 #23
Be discreet MadMike47 Sep 2025 #30
Shout at Nat Guards: "Is this what you signed up for? Is this a good use of your time and body?" . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #32
Unless you are trained as a MP Woodwizard Sep 2025 #34
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