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BumRushDaShow

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38. Thankfully here on PA I don't have to pay state income tax on my retirement
Sat Sep 6, 2025, 10:34 AM
Sep 2025

both annuity and SS.

But for those of us who are not "millionaires" and who also don't even make "6 figures", but still end up with enough combined retirement income to make all of our income federally taxable, it can be a good-sized chunk that is owed, and especially trying to deal with that when juggling health insurance (including Medicare) and added medical costs, as well as housing and food costs.

And with the annual COLAs calculated using the CPI-W (which is based on "wage earners" ) vs the newer, but not used CPI-E (based on being a senior with higher health/housing costs) or even the broader CPI-U - that means you never catch up.

Few if any of the very wealthy even bother collecting SS, so it is irrelevant and basically inapplicable to them... and they sure as hell have plenty of tax deductions that ensure that their effective tax rate ends up the same or LESS than most of the average peons.

And yes, many federal employees (as well as state/county/municipal civil service workers too), who worked over 30, 40, or some even 50 years, ARE ending up in the 20+% tax bracket. They PAID into their annuities with a payroll deduction just like SS. It wasn't a fixed employer-provided and paid-for "pension".

I think the federal annuity deductions were like 7% out of every paycheck. And for those of us on CSRS-Offset, we had both taken out (and they implemented an adjustment to the total % of FICA + CSRS). For FERS, there is a SS component and a TSP (Thrift Savings Plan - sortof like a 401(k)), where the employee had some minimum % deducted and put into some instrument of their choice - stocks or bonds, funds, etc), plus I think a tiny % of annuity.

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Great, except . . . . no_hypocrisy Sep 2025 #1
they can only do so much when Repubs are in power and fucking things up-- but removing the earnings cap LymphocyteLover Sep 2025 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #26
baby steps* Native Sep 2025 #5
Unless it's massive tax cuts for the uber wealthy and Corporations. That took no time at all. Bengus81 Sep 2025 #9
Or a Trump administration with a Republican House and Senate and right wing SCOTUS. KPN Sep 2025 #20
i'm talking about real change, not criming. Native Sep 2025 #23
Uhhh....I watched Elon and Big Balls do it within days. nt intrepidity Sep 2025 #28
Lifting the cap puts more money into the SS fund tinrobot Sep 2025 #7
Good point Raven123 Sep 2025 #10
He also proposed raising the FICO tax cap. Happy Hoosier Sep 2025 #14
Thank you Senator Gallego! FakeNoose Sep 2025 #3
The GOP are such 2 faced liars Farmer-Rick Sep 2025 #4
Fine, but it's a band-aid on the soon to crash dollar as world currency. nt Festivito Sep 2025 #6
Does it mean payroll taxes up to $250K of income? That part makes no sense. Bengus81 Sep 2025 #8
The cap allows people to stop FICA tax deductions when the ceiling is met JohnnyRingo Sep 2025 #13
You misunderstand the question... Happy Hoosier Sep 2025 #15
I usually try to include it in the OP comments if it is there at post time, but here a part of Gallego's press release BumRushDaShow Sep 2025 #21
Ah, I see. I like that plan. NT Happy Hoosier Sep 2025 #22
I get that it would raise the ceiling on FICA earnings, and that's great. JohnnyRingo Sep 2025 #24
Social Security was never meant... SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2025 #25
It's a pretty high bar before you have to pay taxes. JohnnyRingo Sep 2025 #34
$32,000 for a couple filing jointly... SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2025 #35
Then I see .... JohnnyRingo Sep 2025 #39
You're missing the point SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2025 #40
"if someone is living on Social Security they already pay no income taxes" BumRushDaShow Sep 2025 #33
Exactly! SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2025 #36
Cards on the table... JohnnyRingo Sep 2025 #37
Thankfully here on PA I don't have to pay state income tax on my retirement BumRushDaShow Sep 2025 #38
I have mixed feelings on this. JohnnyRingo Sep 2025 #11
Your "combined income" has to be pretty low to not be taxed at all. Happy Hoosier Sep 2025 #17
Yep. It's not that I don't pay taxes on my SS and tiny widow's fed employee pension. I have to file every year. Attilatheblond Sep 2025 #27
I'll probably be working part time till the day I drop Kaleva Sep 2025 #31
Raise it to the first $750,000 earned by higher earners. ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2025 #12
Why stop it at $750K? Happy Hoosier Sep 2025 #16
Read my post. My ideal dream would be to eliminate the Earned Income Cap all together. ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2025 #18
I like that he is pushing this bill out there and giving it a title that might stick. travelingthrulife Sep 2025 #19
He might want to consider relooking at the threshold where you start karynnj Sep 2025 #29
This won't help the poorer SS recipients one bit Kaleva Sep 2025 #30
How about eliminating FICA taxes on us seniors who still have to work? Kaleva Sep 2025 #32
I misread this as "Senator introduces bill to eliminate Social Security benefits" Polybius Sep 2025 #41
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