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Mr. Sparkle

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Sat Oct 11, 2025, 06:50 AM Oct 2025

'It's going to be really bad': Fears over AI bubble bursting grow in Silicon Valley [View all]

Source: BBC

At OpenAI's DevDay this week, OpenAI boss Sam Altman did what American tech bosses rarely do these days: he actually answered questions from reporters. "I know it's tempting to write the bubble story," Mr Altman told me as he sat flanked by his top lieutenants. "In fact, there are many parts of AI that I think are kind of bubbly right now."

In Silicon Valley, the debate over whether AI companies are overvalued has taken on a new urgency. Sceptics are privately - and some now publicly - asking whether the rapid rise in the value of AI tech companies may be, at least in part, the result of what they call "financial engineering". In other words - there are fears these companies are overvalued. Mr Altman said he expected investors would make some bad calls and silly start-ups would walk away with crazy money.

But with OpenAI, he told me, "there's something real happening here". Not everyone is convinced. In recent days, warnings of an AI bubble have come from the Bank of England, the International Monetary Fund, as well as JP Morgan boss Jamie Dimon who told the BBC "the level of uncertainty should be higher in most people's minds". And here, in what is often considered the tech capital of the world, concerns are growing. At a panel discussion at Silicon Valley's Computer History Museum this week, early AI entrepreneur Jerry Kaplan told a packed audience he has lived through four bubbles.

He's especially concerned now given the magnitude of money on the table as compared to the dot-com boom. There's so much more to lose. "When [the bubble] breaks, it's going to be really bad, and not just for people in AI," he said. "It's going to drag down the rest of the economy." However, at the Stanford Graduate School of Business, which has minted its fair share of tech entrepreneurs, Prof Anat Admati says while there have been many attempts to model when we're in the bubble, it can be a futile exercise. "It is very hard to time a bubble," Prof Admati told me. "And you can't say with certainty you were in one until after the bubble has burst." But the data is concerning to many. AI-related enterprises have accounted for 80% of the stunning gains in the American stock market this year - and Gartner estimates global spending on AI will likely reach a whopping $1.5tn (£1.1tn) before 2025 is out.

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz69qy760weo

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Can we train AI EYESORE 9001 Oct 2025 #1
Humans like money IronLionZion Oct 2025 #19
I'm reminded of a story about capturing monkeys in the wild EYESORE 9001 Oct 2025 #21
Who didn't see this coming? mwmisses4289 Oct 2025 #2
They saw it coming OldBaldy1701E Oct 2025 #4
Nonsense. They do care. It's money. It's a lot of money. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #8
They knew they were being crazy with their ideas about growth and income and damage caused, and they still did it. OldBaldy1701E Oct 2025 #22
Sure, they knew what they were doing--making claims and asking for funding. Igel Oct 2025 #36
Maybe it's time dweller Oct 2025 #3
When AI can actually do something, I will applaud UpInArms Oct 2025 #5
"Until cars have rear view cameras they are just toys. Only good to play with." Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #6
This conversation illuminates why it's hard to predict winners and losers. yardwork Oct 2025 #13
Yes. You share a good perspective. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #18
Zuckerberg, Gates, and many other billionaires have been funding medical research. yardwork Oct 2025 #20
The scientists who intuitively "know" how to use AI to make medical discoveries will be rare. hunter Oct 2025 #34
It's much bigger than that. yardwork Oct 2025 #43
The notion that humans are infinitely repairable machines is absurd. hunter Oct 2025 #63
Those are all very good points. yardwork Oct 2025 #69
Business loves AI for one reason customerserviceguy Oct 2025 #50
Yes, "tireless huckster". But no, there are lots of reasons for AI that have nothing to do with prying. . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #51
So, Robots. They're on the way. thought crime Oct 2025 #70
6 fingered ai portraits and they think it's going to run the world? Do they know humans only have 5? Blues Heron Oct 2025 #7
LOL..how many toes did Traitor Green have in that picture of her months back? Bengus81 Oct 2025 #10
Maintain that attitude and you will be overtaken by events. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #11
Let me guess, you have ai stock Blues Heron Oct 2025 #12
Anybody who has a retirement fund is invested in AI. yardwork Oct 2025 #14
No wonder your into it. Divest now while you can, before the bubble bursts Blues Heron Oct 2025 #16
Ok, that made me laugh. yardwork Oct 2025 #17
And do what? Keep it in cash, losing value through inflation? Igel Oct 2025 #39
As to the report, I've heard versions several times on CNBC and I think it is the truth Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #42
I've seen those same reports about AI buoying the U.S. economy. yardwork Oct 2025 #44
And that's a problem. Many have no choice how their retirement is invested. AI company bubble bursts and bam Cheezoholic Oct 2025 #26
Agreed. Human greed is a problem. yardwork Oct 2025 #46
You can't attack the message, so you attack the messenger by alleging corruption (self-interest) Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #15
My little quibble: MrsCheaplaugh Oct 2025 #25
Interesting Observation. delisen Oct 2025 #28
It's my quibble too and it's not a little one. They are building these massive data centers everywhere and ratchiweenie Oct 2025 #32
This massive use of power is a temporary phase. Ten / 20 years from now it won't use so much. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #38
There is push back on these big data centers Deminpenn Oct 2025 #45
But at the heart of the matter is that with all of the bells and whistles moniss Oct 2025 #37
Fine points, but I was refuting the simplistic idea that "garbage in garbage out" means that AI is useless. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #40
Understood and I agree that AI is not useless but moniss Oct 2025 #47
You big tech guys going to ask Trump for a refund of the millions of $$ you foisted on him? Bengus81 Oct 2025 #9
it should be. barbtries Oct 2025 #23
Good. infullview Oct 2025 #24
Quibble: delisen Oct 2025 #30
Lazy doesn't include you. infullview Oct 2025 #49
I hope, after the crash, AI focuses more on stuff like this. Oneironaut Oct 2025 #71
Please. Let it be a hard, hard crash. hunter Oct 2025 #27
It will be hard Pachamama Oct 2025 #31
Email was going to be free forever too. bucolic_frolic Oct 2025 #29
The economic terrorists are working to destroy the economy of California. . Clouds Passing Oct 2025 #33
Nonsense. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #52
Just wait and see Clouds Passing Oct 2025 #54
I'll wait and see about things that are explained and not simply eleven-word blurts. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #59
Call it following the path of past behavior. Educated guess. Doesn't take a genius to see where it's going. Clouds Passing Oct 2025 #74
That is not the past behaviour. I'm not a genius and you are educated, so explain it. I don't see where it is going. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #76
That is the reichwing trajectory, to take over the 4th largest economy in the world. Clouds Passing Oct 2025 #80
I agree, the oligarchs want to tighten their strangle hold on wealth & income, but not that way Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #81
Everytime I hear of AI I think of Hal in 2001 space odyssey kimbutgar Oct 2025 #35
And if AI suffers its demise... GreenWave Oct 2025 #41
AI is certainly over-hyped Deminpenn Oct 2025 #48
Very interesting article. Agreed: well worth the read. Thanks! . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #58
Venture bubbles are usually isolated WSHazel Oct 2025 #53
The dot.com bubble caused a mild recession SamuelTheThird Oct 2025 #56
This may be worse not bc of bubble bigger, but bc of Trumponomics in the background being propped up Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #60
This generation of AI is pretty limited. C_U_L8R Oct 2025 #55
Also the data center issue Diraven Oct 2025 #57
We are approaching that point. There is circular financing now Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #61
AI - A whole lot more canned hot air for sale. I suggest you read J.K. Galbraith's The Great Crash. flashman13 Oct 2025 #62
I attended a Galbraith lecture in the later 'seventies and a discussion afterwards. hunter Oct 2025 #75
Me too! Early 70s. He had the most wonderful and distinctive speaking style. flashman13 Oct 2025 #77
And an incredible dry wit that would cut through the most inflated ego. flashman13 Oct 2025 #79
Not as bad as the global bitcoin bubble which is sure to eclipse the AI bubble Glorious bastard Oct 2025 #64
I suspect they will both explode more or less simultaneously. One will trigger the other. flashman13 Oct 2025 #65
That's a very likely possibility. Glorious bastard Oct 2025 #66
So our stock market is just unbridled bubbleism? mdbl Oct 2025 #67
Correct! flashman13 Oct 2025 #72
I can't wait. It's going to be spectacular. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Oct 2025 #68
The bubble isn't going to burst (if it does) any time soon because... LudwigPastorius Oct 2025 #73
It will be less of a national security issue if AI "research" (corporate exploitation) hits a wall of reality. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #82
Don't want it, don't need it, would rather avoid it. discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2025 #78
We've had a bubble and burst economy for some time. raccoon Oct 2025 #83
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