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angrychair

(12,335 posts)
18. Honestly it doesn't matter
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:39 PM
Oct 2025

I'll be completely frank I don't know what the answer is anymore.
The Senate and House Democratic caucus cannot trust Republicans on anything they say. They can even include it in the budget and pass it only to have the Mango Mussolini administration just decide "nah, nevermind" and refuse to do it.
No matter what they negotiate they can now just line item veto all they want or just reduce it by whatever they want and there really absolutely nothing anyone can do about it.
The courts can yell at them, as they are doing now about court orders this administration is ignoring, but the courts are completely toothless because they have no means of enforcement.

Basically our only hope is literally that people will finally have enough but I have lost all faith in humanity at this point and truly believe that if he just issues a $500 check that most people will shut up and be quiet and let him do whatever he wants.
I always love how people say stuff like "would you let "person X" do "thing X" for a million dollars" when in reality the average American would sell out their entire family for a $25 gift card to Denny's.
Maybe I'm wrong and hopefully I am but the country is in a very bad spot right now and I don't think there is a lot of options on the table to fix it

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Wow. A Republican political leader lied. Shocking. hatrack Oct 2025 #1
Is it a lie? quakerboy Oct 2025 #15
Have that vote now - you are getting paid....do your job. walkingman Oct 2025 #2
dear dems - repubs have ALL the votes they need to end shutdown. rinse and repeat 24/7 dont argue in the media nt msongs Oct 2025 #3
🖕 All these fuckers in the RepuQ party do is LIE and GASLIGHT the voting public day-in, day-out 🖕 AZJonnie Oct 2025 #4
I don't Rebl2 Oct 2025 #5
Don't Do It DallasNE Oct 2025 #6
Exactly. Raven123 Oct 2025 #7
Another thing this shows DallasNE Oct 2025 #29
Thune's position hasn't changed at all, and ABC News should not repackage it this way Prairie Gates Oct 2025 #8
They're not repackaging - they are quoting from the MSNBC interview this morning BumRushDaShow Oct 2025 #9
It is repackaging because Thune's position has not changed at all Prairie Gates Oct 2025 #10
"Are they going to report every time he says the same thing on a new day as if it is something new?" BumRushDaShow Oct 2025 #11
They are reporting it as if it is a new offer Prairie Gates Oct 2025 #12
He is asserting it as an actual "offer" to the media as a P.R. stunt and defensive move BumRushDaShow Oct 2025 #13
Yes, I understand what he's doing and so does ABC, which is why they should report it Prairie Gates Oct 2025 #14
ACA Repeal by another name bmichaelh Oct 2025 #16
The subsidies HAVE to be packaged with the CR, otherwise.... reACTIONary Oct 2025 #17
Honestly it doesn't matter angrychair Oct 2025 #18
GEE. WHO TO BELIEVE? Skittles Oct 2025 #19
He wants to pass the bill, then he will negotiate after the shutdown ends JohnnyRingo Oct 2025 #20
alternate headline: barbtries Oct 2025 #21
"but that he couldn't guarantee an outcome" Javaman Oct 2025 #22
In the meantime, we keep sitting at home.... COL Mustard Oct 2025 #23
Eventually, their endless lies may catch up with them dlk Oct 2025 #24
Keep it shut down until the midterms if necessary MichMan Oct 2025 #25
Wow! Thune is in lockstep samplegirl Oct 2025 #26
Thule knows it wouldn't pass lonely bird Oct 2025 #27
bullshit! mike_c Oct 2025 #28
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