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billh58

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14. Gosh, NRA talking points
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:04 PM
Jan 2013

almost verbatim. SYG is indeed bad legislation, and allows for vigilantism and stalking like your man Zimmerman displayed. SYG goes hand-in-hand with concealed carry for those Rambo wannabes who dream about saving damsels in distress. The statistics (which the NRA and its drones like so much) show that municipalities with SYG laws have a higher incidence of homicide. More guns equals more gun deaths and more gun violence.

The "Chicago" NRA talking point has nothing to do with their existing gun control laws, but with gang violence and easy access to guns. Where do you suppose those guns came from? Maybe a gun show? Or, a "private" sale with no background check? Or maybe stolen from a careless "legal" gun owner?

OTOH, castle laws for home protection are fine, and always have been. But guns in the home also need regulation to ensure both responsibility, and accountability.

Contrary to the NRA, the 2nd Amendment does NOT prohibit gun control -- in fact it demands it ("well regulated&quot . The NRA is the only organization that prohibits gun control, and it does so by buying and bullying politicians at all levels of government. The NRA is our enemy, and not the law-abiding gun owners in America who will not be upset with sane gun control measures.

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Not a big surprise, really. DryRain Jan 2013 #1
The article contains a picture of the poster boy for Stand Your Ground Laws Jim__ Jan 2013 #2
That's what the gun lobby wants. Deaths are proof of concepts for their product. onehandle Jan 2013 #3
Yes, increases gun sales every time one more is killed on this stupid concept of DryRain Jan 2013 #6
no surprise there samsingh Jan 2013 #4
But...but...but.. the Gun Nuts said this would not happen!!!111 jpak Jan 2013 #5
Statistics prove that billh58 Jan 2013 #12
I will not be going to Florida until this law is repealed kimbutgar Jan 2013 #7
In Florida you have to be white to successfully use SYG Tempest Jan 2013 #8
Tell me something that we don't know, really it took a study to figure this out? obama2terms Jan 2013 #9
I own a shotgun thebard77 Jan 2013 #10
Castle doctrine is not the same as stand your ground. hedgehog Jan 2013 #13
Gosh, NRA talking points billh58 Jan 2013 #14
Point of Fact. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #17
Actually, O'Mara has said there will be a SYG hearing Tempest Jan 2013 #19
Sonofa AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #20
O'Mara changed his mind once the June trial date was set Tempest Jan 2013 #23
If you want to use your gun to protect yourself in your home, fine. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #16
You are confusing the Castle law with SYG Tempest Jan 2013 #18
SYG is a good law here in SC oldbanjo Jan 2013 #25
Look at California marions ghost Jan 2013 #27
You're confusing SYG with Castle Doctrine. JoeyT Jan 2013 #30
Thanks. thebard77 Jan 2013 #32
give John Wayne wannabes a reason to shoot Skittles Jan 2013 #11
Meh. krispos42 Jan 2013 #15
gee never could have anticipated this result azurnoir Jan 2013 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author oldbanjo Jan 2013 #26
Reference “Does Strengthening Self-Defense Law Deter Crime or Escalate Violence? Evidence from jody Jan 2013 #22
Another pesky fact for the NRA to shout over bongbong Jan 2013 #24
Amazing how an "It's okay to shoot him" law results in more homicides. valerief Jan 2013 #28
Thankyou, Captain Obvious. lindysalsagal Jan 2013 #29
File under "duh" Doctor_J Jan 2013 #31
Another for the "no shit sherlock" file Lil Missy Jan 2013 #33
Correct me if I'm wrong MisterScruffles Jan 2013 #34
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