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Miguelito Loveless

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5. ADP is not a government agency

Wed Nov 5, 2025, 10:33 AM

Nov 2025

Two things:

1) The number of jobs created is below "replacement" level of what needs to be generated to just stay even.
2) These initial reports are subject to revision as more data comes in.

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ADP National Employment Report: Private Sector Employment Increased by 42,000 Jobs in October; Annual Pay was Up 4.5% [View all] mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2025 OP

I don't believe any "report".. Escape Nov 2025 #1

ADP is a payroll processing firm, not government IronLionZion Nov 2025 #2

Oh, I see..... Escape Nov 2025 #27

How may we help you understand "independent measure of the labor market" ? It's in the OP. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #13

According to this data, less than the population of Jacksonville, NC littlemissmartypants Nov 2025 #3

No national 'report' linked to this administration is to be believed. Scalded Nun Nov 2025 #4

ADP is not a government agency Miguelito Loveless Nov 2025 #5

I personally believe that anything that flatters this adminsitration will be presented as coming from the government Scalded Nun Nov 2025 #6

Automatic cynicism is blinding. It's a self-damaging strategy. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #15

In other words "I don't care about the truth, I will believe what I want as long Wiz Imp Nov 2025 #32

Thanks. riversedge Nov 2025 #7

Population is not growing."Replacement level" is probably around zero. mathematic Nov 2025 #9

Our labor force growth was seeded years ago 0rganism Nov 2025 #30

How may we help you understand "independent measure of the labor market" ? It's in the OP. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #14

ADP is a private payroll-processing firm that only reports on its clients PSPS Nov 2025 #8

tRUMP shooting the messenger wolfie001 Nov 2025 #12

Not true. How may we help you understand "in collaboration with the Stanford Digital Economy Lab"? (in the OP) . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #16

So? It's still working with an incomplete data set. PSPS Nov 2025 #23

The point is that your Reply title "only reports on its clients" is incorrect. They collaborate with Stanford. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #25

They "collaborate" using only their own figures. There are no BLS figures anymore. PSPS Nov 2025 #31

I think Stanford would bring more figures or high quality estimates. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #33

The increasingly large revisions to the BLS numbers for the months (and months) Igel Nov 2025 #29

ADP is a player not a spectator. We are spectators. twodogsbarking Nov 2025 #10

So? That means you know better than ADP and Stanford? Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #17

I don't recall saying that. twodogsbarking Nov 2025 #18

Correct. I may have misinterpreted your comment as being against ADP, in which case I apologize. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #19

The are not impartial, that is all. I was an auditor. Things happen. twodogsbarking Nov 2025 #20

Thanks. Sorry about my misinterpretation. Not impartial? In what way and how so? Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #21

Payroll processors and tax preparation by companies the size of ADP and Intuit profit twodogsbarking Nov 2025 #24

Anemic wolfie001 Nov 2025 #11

A for-profit company tells the private sector what it wants to hear Torchlight Nov 2025 #22

Well, ADP added me a few months ago Polybius Nov 2025 #28

I had no idea there were that many Spirit Halloween stores underpants Nov 2025 #26