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oberliner

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8. The anti-gay stuff doesn't bother you?
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 04:21 PM
Jan 2013

Hagel offered a pathetically weak apology two weeks ago for having opposed the nomination of openly gay James Hormel as ambassador to Luxembourg when President Clinton nominated him in 1998. At the time he'd called Hormel "openly aggressively gay" and therefore unfit to represent the country abroad, because being gay is "an inhibiting factor." But all Hagel will say about it now, releasing a statement only after the Human Rights Campaign expressed concern over a possible nomination, is that those remarks were "insensitive."

Insensitive? Come on, Senator. Surely you can do better than that. And if you can't, you don't deserve the job.

Hagel scored a zero on the Human Rights Campaign's Senate scorecard between 2001 and 2006 (which is not that long ago), voting against pro-gay initiatives and for anti-gay ones, and was on record as opposing allowing gays to serve openly in the military (calling it a "social experiment&quot , let alone representing this country as ambassadors. And yet in his recent apology for the Hormel remarks, he seems surprised that LGBT Americans would question his "commitment to their civil rights," says he supports open service and claims that the remarks about Hormel don't represent "the totality of my record."

Am I missing something here? From what I see, the remarks do pretty much represent the totality of Hagel's voting record -- a big fat zero on equality. The Washington Note's Steve Clemons, a noted and respected foreign policy expert who is openly gay and a friend of mine, lauds Hagel as pro-gay and as perfect for the job of defense secretary, explaining that Hagel, whom he knows personally, has made a dramatic transformation on gay rights that few have known about. Steve chides critics for not reaching out and asking Hagel about his supposed change over the years.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelangelo-signorile/why-chuck-hagels-gay-prob_b_2393894.html

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Excerpt from The Cable... flpoljunkie Jan 2013 #1
Republican war lovers endorse him? Greeeeeeeeeat. Thanks, Obama. elehhhhna Jan 2013 #26
Excellent news. I hope it is so. Godspeed Mr. Hagel. eom Purveyor Jan 2013 #2
The anti-gay stuff doesn't bother you? oberliner Jan 2013 #8
Hagel attacked Hormel harder than McCain attacked Rice, two nominees for diplomatic posts Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #13
Odd that some folks here are so keen on this Republican getting the nomination oberliner Jan 2013 #14
There are, but for some reason, Obama has to do President McCain's bidding PerceptionManagement Jan 2013 #21
Hormel accepted the apology and found it unprecedented. joshcryer Jan 2013 #23
If it's Hagel or Flournoy I'd prefer Hagel. allrevvedup Jan 2013 #3
really despite all the bad press? I'm surprised n/t azurnoir Jan 2013 #4
I wish Obama fought for economic issues Kelvin Mace Jan 2013 #5
Hagel opposed the war in Iraq. flpoljunkie Jan 2013 #6
After 2006 only. Before that, I do not remember him opposing it that much. Mass Jan 2013 #9
He was ambivalent about it, and voted for it reluctantly-- TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #15
October 11, 2002. He voted for it: Freddie Stubbs Jan 2013 #10
He voted for it. Some opposition. Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #12
He did, but he spoke out against it making the Bush administration very unhappy. flpoljunkie Jan 2013 #16
He spoke against how they were fighting the war - karynnj Jan 2013 #17
J Street also supports Chuck Hagel and rebuts the charges against him. flpoljunkie Jan 2013 #19
Correct. It's his position on war with Iran, not Iraq, that now counts the most. On that, Flournoy leveymg Jan 2013 #27
Hagel opposed it AFTER he supported it under Bush Kelvin Mace Jan 2013 #30
Deputy Defense Secretary Ash Carter would be my strong suggestion... FailureToCommunicate Jan 2013 #7
wow Enrique Jan 2013 #11
I will help do everything in my power to ensure William769 Jan 2013 #18
Steve Clemons will be on Rachel Maddow tonight to discuss likely Hagel SecDef nomination flpoljunkie Jan 2013 #20
Obama, please pick someone from our party Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2013 #22
Much prefer Chuck Hagel to 'leading counter insurgency supporter' Michele Flournoy flpoljunkie Jan 2013 #24
Between this and the WaPo editorial from a few weeks back, Hagel is to the left Blasphemer Jan 2013 #25
I agree. flpoljunkie Jan 2013 #29
Bad pick. Why does defense always have to be soiled with repugs? morningfog Jan 2013 #28
Chuck Todd says opposition to Hagel is all about his flipping on Iraq in '06, rather than Israel flpoljunkie Jan 2013 #31
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