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147. Stopped using mercury - "in most vaccines."

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 11:14 PM

Jan 2013

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Eight Hospital Employees Fired For Refusing Flu Vaccines [View all] alp227 Jan 2013 OP

I have no sympathy for them Major Nikon Jan 2013 #1

Am not a nurse and for years I didn't take the flu shot. But when I hit 62 I started taking southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #4

Actually the CDC now recommends it for everyone, unless the person is allergic to the vaccine still_one Jan 2013 #103

I think if you are in a medical field you should get it. Especially if they work in hospitals. southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #104

They have a new vax for those allergic to eggs obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #110

Then no one should be allowed in the hospital without proof of having received a flu shot snappyturtle Jan 2013 #5

When I was working which was a long time ago Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #14

I am in hospitals regularly to see parishoners.. noel711 Jan 2013 #144

Actually some hospitals are banning children to try and keep it under control cstanleytech Jan 2013 #17

That's Norovirus - winter vomiting virus intaglio Jan 2013 #51

My apologies that was the wrong link cstanleytech Jan 2013 #52

That would be an excellent point for any of the 8 nurses' attorneys to explore. pacalo Jan 2013 #20

It's actually not that good a point. Nurses are hovering over patients 24/7. Visitors and doctors... Moonwalk Jan 2013 #105

Exactly. HuckleB Jan 2013 #116

I was looking at it from the nurses' point of view. pacalo Jan 2013 #122

Did you get a three-day flu or did you get a virus that laid you out flat for months... Moonwalk Jan 2013 #140

The heavy congestion & achiness lasted two weeks. pacalo Jan 2013 #146

Fine by me, but you should read up on the influenza virus of 1918. It's why we have... Moonwalk Jan 2013 #187

I will read it. pacalo Jan 2013 #196

Thats incorrect. FlowerGurl Jan 2013 #154

It should include any employees who have access to patient rooms Major Nikon Jan 2013 #37

Absolutely...dietary aides, housekeeping, etc. nt snappyturtle Jan 2013 #46

It did include the entire 26,000? people who worked at that complex. Sunlei Jan 2013 #77

wrong- from the article "Of the hospital's 26,000 employees statewide, 95 percent complied... Beaverhausen Jan 2013 #121

I bet the 1,300 finally complied rather than be fired. Sunlei Jan 2013 #195

It does obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #81

not even close. Do visitors deal with patients everyday? This is not only to protect the hospital still_one Jan 2013 #106

Idiotic tabasco Jan 2013 #212

I agree as a retired nurse Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #13

As a nurse, I agree with you. Butterbean Jan 2013 #202

Unvaccinated workers wear protective gear including masks Gormy Cuss Jan 2013 #32

The hospital has very little control or responsibility for family members Major Nikon Jan 2013 #65

I'm just reporting what my nurse friends have told me. Gormy Cuss Jan 2013 #123

What would be wrong with the hospital giving the nurses a suspension? FarPoint Jan 2013 #62

It's true that viruses and bacteria are little, wee things, but as Shakespeare said... Hekate Jan 2013 #95

You make no sense at all. FarPoint Jan 2013 #125

Quote: "What is wrong with folks who want to sack people for the little things?" Hekate Jan 2013 #128

Nurses are more in danger from the patients than the other way around. eilen Jan 2013 #132

Fantastic points. FarPoint Jan 2013 #149

I could not agree more!! SkyDaddy7 Jan 2013 #64

+1 question everything Jan 2013 #87

I'm a retired 840high Jan 2013 #101

Why do you hate people having autonomy over their bodies? SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #141

Why do you hate old people and babies that get the flu while in the hospital? Major Nikon Jan 2013 #148

Disease is spread mostly by touch, not whether one is sick or not. And even then SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #170

I'd rather have both Major Nikon Jan 2013 #181

At what point are you willing to make a person sacrifice their bodily autonomy for SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #184

The point at which it places other lives at danger isn't a bad place to start Major Nikon Jan 2013 #188

Well, that is nonsenical. I place lives in danger every time I get in my SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #189

And you are highly regulated in that activity Major Nikon Jan 2013 #191

No, it is more sore than "makes me angry when I try to work out" - it is sore enough SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #193

What you are describing sounds much more like a side effect reaction Major Nikon Jan 2013 #194

I wonder if the nasal vaccine would be better for you. People coming to work sick makes me uppityperson Jan 2013 #150

I haven't been sick in years :) SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #167

Newsflash... FlowerGurl Jan 2013 #157

That goes hand in hand (pardon the pun) with possible flu exposure Major Nikon Jan 2013 #162

Hand washing Compliance FlowerGurl Jan 2013 #175

I'm not disputing this Major Nikon Jan 2013 #180

Newsflash #2 tabasco Jan 2013 #213

The noose is rapidly closing in on the collective neck of health freedom in America, lunasun Jan 2013 #2

Mary Mallon had the same employment problems. nt msanthrope Jan 2013 #3

I see what you did there. alphafemale Jan 2013 #11

Subtle...eh? nt msanthrope Jan 2013 #22

If Mary had washed her hands (or better, washed her hands and wore gloves) SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #143

"Her body, her choice" as some people say Confusious Jan 2013 #156

The person who makes your sandwich should have the freedom to not wash their hands. alphafemale Jan 2013 #15

The phlegm costs extra, like pesto mayonnaise. Scootaloo Jan 2013 #56

Well don't join the military Peregrine Jan 2013 #47

I feel for the Nurses...but Macoy51 Jan 2013 #109

Nobody is hampering their freedom to decide Scootaloo Jan 2013 #55

Yes, what will be next? Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #68

Some people say ... GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #117

Freedom... Nitram Jan 2013 #69

So they stay home, as they would if they had a cold or any other communicable illness. Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #72

most virus including the flu are contagious before symptoms. Sunlei Jan 2013 #79

And getting a shot is no 2naSalit Jan 2013 #129

You Are Raining RobinA Jan 2013 #142

Well darn it all to kingdom come! 2naSalit Jan 2013 #199

The flu shot is not a guarantee that you're not going to get the flu lunasun Jan 2013 #88

So...this flu shot is a guarantee? FarPoint Jan 2013 #126

No one is forcing her to work there. She is free to borrow $20k from her parents and kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #134

How stupid. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #6

Daughter says they must take vaccine or wear masks. efhmc Jan 2013 #7

Yes, those who say no to the vaccine must wear protective clothing. Gormy Cuss Jan 2013 #34

Medical professionals should know that they cannot get the flu from a flu shot Danmel Jan 2013 #8

I wish the obviously sick grocery packer who packed my groceries this evening snappyturtle Jan 2013 #10

I'm sure the sick grocery packer would have liked to have stayed home too.. AmyDeLune Jan 2013 #26

It can be devastating to me too if I miss 3 days of work due to contact with her. Where snappyturtle Jan 2013 #43

Where does it end?.. awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #54

This is all speculation and assumption. FarPoint Jan 2013 #70

And the assumption that if you get a flu shot you will not get the flu!!!! lunasun Jan 2013 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Jan 2013 #119

Wear a mask. (?) snappyturtle Jan 2013 #124

This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Jan 2013 #130

That is ridiculous eilen Jan 2013 #133

Management may not allow her to work even with a mask and masks only work for a short uppityperson Jan 2013 #153

Well, I hope the masks work for a long time eilen Jan 2013 #223

Some do. The ordinary cheap ones do not though. uppityperson Jan 2013 #224

Ever worked in a grocery store? Sherman A1 Jan 2013 #198

But if they stay home, the do not get paid. RC Jan 2013 #160

+1000 - when I taught 6th grade, I got sick every other week b/c the kids were sent to school sick wordpix Jan 2013 #161

Do some information seeking before you pass judgment. FlowerGurl Jan 2013 #164

Lying there in the hospital in a weakened state, immune system compromised, infant or oldster... Hekate Jan 2013 #9

Critical Care Unit obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #59

Science?? RobinA Jan 2013 #91

Oh, please. A century of hard research is not enough for you? Hekate Jan 2013 #92

I've Read That Book RobinA Jan 2013 #107

Well you can lead a horse to water... Hekate Jan 2013 #108

A large portion of people in our State got the shot and still got the flu. The flu glinda Jan 2013 #12

It takes a while for the flu shot to build up the immunity. If you have the shot and Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #16

He got it way way early. glinda Jan 2013 #30

Thanks. He has a chest infection and so far no pneumonia. Knock on wood. glinda Jan 2013 #31

I'll be sending him the good vibes. Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #39

Thanks! He needs it! glinda Jan 2013 #41

I have an ER DOC friend on Chicago's south side. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2013 #45

Three years ago I got the flu after getting a flu shot for the first time. pacalo Jan 2013 #23

The "3-day flu" and influenza are not the same virus, according to my doctor Hekate Jan 2013 #25

You are absolutely correct......... mrmpa Jan 2013 #29

I got the so-called "Hong Kong Flu" in December, 1968 The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2013 #33

You are right: that is classic influenza and it can kill. I'm currently reading... Hekate Jan 2013 #38

It is an amazing book, isn't it? nt Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #40

That's a great book obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #61

100% correct obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #60

influenza is caused by a VIRUS Carolina Jan 2013 #63

I know that obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #67

I had a friend die of swine flu Marrah_G Jan 2013 #168

If you don't cough for a couple weeks, it probably was not influenza uppityperson Jan 2013 #155

No. They already had the flu virus ... Deep13 Jan 2013 #28

I have a right to be the next typhoid Mary! Deep13 Jan 2013 #18

Efficacy of current flu vaccines questioned Celebration Jan 2013 #19

Outrage Killer!!! RobinA Jan 2013 #93

What religion lets you be a nurse but not take a shot? McCamy Taylor Jan 2013 #21

The problem for the Hospital is this nurse was permitted NOT to take the vaccine for 21 years. happyslug Jan 2013 #24

Thanks for this information Carolina Jan 2013 #66

I wouldn't expect any civil rights case to go very far Major Nikon Jan 2013 #197

I had influenza once dflprincess Jan 2013 #27

The flu VIRUS doesn't understand democracy.... ReRe Jan 2013 #35

Very well said. The last bout of influenza I had I ended up with pneumonitis... Hekate Jan 2013 #42

my mom has advanced Alzheimer's & home health aides coming & going 24/7, along with me who works wordpix Jan 2013 #36

You are very lucky ReRe Jan 2013 #44

we use the gloves but the masks are a great idea - they'd probably scare her, though wordpix Jan 2013 #159

Yeah, that might not be a good idea, i.e. the mask. Don't do mask if it scares her. ReRe Jan 2013 #163

similar to my Mom at home /w family care 24/7. Was routine, her Dr. always gave the flu vaccine. Sunlei Jan 2013 #76

I haven't taken mom for flu vaccine, and she hasn't had flu for 5 yrs. with Alzheimer's wordpix Jan 2013 #158

same with my Mom never sick except for that horrid Alzheimers. Sunlei Jan 2013 #190

you can get the flu from the Mona Jan 2013 #48

More vaccine myth repeated - please provide sources csziggy Jan 2013 #86

yes, you can get... Mona Jan 2013 #98

Provide sources for your claims csziggy Jan 2013 #99

No, you cannot obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #112

This site tends to have a kneejerk reaction to nurses eilen Jan 2013 #137

Stopped using mercury - "in most vaccines." OhZone Jan 2013 #147

Oh jesus christ Confusious Jan 2013 #165

The unsubstantiated claim was that aluminum was used in live flu vaccines csziggy Jan 2013 #174

Maybe it's harmful or maybe it's not - OhZone Jan 2013 #217

Do you have a link to that claim? csziggy Jan 2013 #218

Easily google-able! OhZone Jan 2013 #227

You cannot get the flu from the vax obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #111

May their convictions towards their own personal choices find them well in their next career(s)... Earth_First Jan 2013 #49

Several years ago, I worked in a hospital in which employees were told to take flu shots. AdHocSolver Jan 2013 #50

You see tama Jan 2013 #57

The very essence of this story. CanSocDem Jan 2013 #82

Touche RobinA Jan 2013 #96

I agree FlowerGurl Jan 2013 #172

These are medical workers intaglio Jan 2013 #53

She should have been fired obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #58

Seems to me you can pass along the germs MissMillie Jan 2013 #71

Yes RobinA Jan 2013 #97

Good. (nt) Paladin Jan 2013 #73

Who's the big pharmas making bank on flu shots anyway? Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #74

No one "makes bank" on flu shots obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #80

+1 HuckleB Jan 2013 #115

3% of what pharma makes is from ALL vaccines Confusious Jan 2013 #166

People with flu are contagious BEFORE they have flu symptoms. Sunlei Jan 2013 #75

I worked for an accounting firm revolution breeze Jan 2013 #78

How would she make her patients sick roody Jan 2013 #83

People with flu are contagious before showing symptoms nt craychek Jan 2013 #84

By the time you know you have the flu, it's too late obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #113

I get my flu shot every year with no complaints. Jennicut Jan 2013 #85

Efficacy of Flu Vaccine RobinA Jan 2013 #90

What do you do for a living? snooper2 Jan 2013 #94

lol obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #114

CDC recommends the vaccine Confusious Jan 2013 #169

It Does Seem RobinA Jan 2013 #204

Well I think the claim of side effects Confusious Jan 2013 #207

By My Dictionary RobinA Jan 2013 #215

I'm an RN. . . BigDemVoter Jan 2013 #100

At least in California if a healthcare person who deals with patients does not take the flu vaccine, still_one Jan 2013 #102

My mandatory flu vaccine did a great job this year. ileus Jan 2013 #118

I have never had either one of them. A flu shot or the flu itself. CBGLuthier Jan 2013 #120

Anyone working in a medical setting should get vaccinated Samurai_Writer Jan 2013 #127

Hospital employees without flu shots are all potential Typhoid Marys. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #131

I get the flu shot every year now. Especially since that new strain cropped up that kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #135

I had flu vaccine and have been sick 3 times since Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2013 #136

I wonder how high on the pay scale and close to retirement these nurses were. nt eilen Jan 2013 #138

Mandatory Flu Vaccines for Healthcare Workers – Why one man chose the mask lovuian Jan 2013 #139

A nurse that gets a flu shot but does not wash his or her hands is far more SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #145

Bullshit Confusious Jan 2013 #171

No, bullshit SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #173

The flu is spread by touch, not by breathing. Confusious Jan 2013 #176

Who stands close to a couching or sneezing person? If you do that I guess you are asking to get sick SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #178

Most infections Confusious Jan 2013 #179

CAN spread up to 6 feet, but unlikely. And again, you have to be sick (so you should stay home if SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #182

So you have problems reading? Confusious Jan 2013 #183

No, do you have problems reading? It says surfaces less often. It does not say SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #185

Jesus Fing Christ Confusious Jan 2013 #186

You can be contagious up to 7 days Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #203

every fly in a plane or go to the store? you are exposed and close to sick people & share the air. Sunlei Jan 2013 #192

So what? That's a total moot point. WestCoastLib Jan 2013 #225

I have no sympathy for them. One of my friends almost died from influenza this week. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #151

Hey, hospitals are not hiring someone if they are a nicotine user on their own time. What is the Purveyor Jan 2013 #152

this reminds me..i get a free shot from medicare madrchsod Jan 2013 #177

Taking the flu vaccine would have little effect on passing the disease to someone else. AdHocSolver Jan 2013 #200

Contracting the flu when you are already sick enough to be hospitalized can be appleannie1 Jan 2013 #201

My best friend mimi85 Jan 2013 #205

So would unionization have made better safety standards? alp227 Jan 2013 #206

A flu vaccine is not a guarantee that one won't get the flu lovuian Jan 2013 #208

You have the inalienable right to think on your own, Trillo Jan 2013 #209

All it would take jrandom421 Jan 2013 #210

There is no evidence that vaccinating healthcare workers prevents flu in elderly patients. Prometheus Bound Jan 2013 #211

No sympathy here. AngryOldDem Jan 2013 #214

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Jan 2013 #216

I'd take the HepB vaccine sharp_stick Jan 2013 #219

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Jan 2013 #222

You want to do as much as you can to protect Lars39 Jan 2013 #220

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Jan 2013 #221

No sympathy here either. matt819 Jan 2013 #226