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Igel

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21. No, actually they're quite clear that they're not.
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 01:33 PM
Nov 2025

At least not in the sense of claiming that "cat domestication" happened only in Europe. But they do date the timing of "cat domestication in Europe", which is quite a different thing. It's the difference between claiming the origin of the specie's domestication versus timing when domestication was introduced into Europe.

... It was a separate dispersal from North Africa about two centuries later that formed the genetic basis of the modern domestic cat in Europe.
The study's findings suggest that there was not a single core region of cat domestication, but that several regions and cultures in North Africa played a role, according to zooarchaeologist and study co-author Bea De Cupere of the Royal Belgian Institute of Natural Sciences....
The earliest domestic cat in Europe identified in the study - one genetically similar to present-day domestic cats - dated to between 50 BC and 80 AD from the Austrian town of Mautern, site of a Roman fort along the Danube River.
The study, however, does not unravel the timing and location of the initial feline domestication.
"Cat domestication is complex," Ottoni said, "and what we can tell now is the timing of the introduction of domestic cats to Europe from North Africa. We can't really say much what happened before and where."



Then there's another competing study that looks at North Africa:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq8dvdp9gn7o

The contribution of which seems to strongly move the locus of early domestication away from Arabia and adjacent areas to North Africa--probably Egypt, but given trade routes you can't really rule out Cyrenica.

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That is a grand discovery tonekat Nov 2025 #1
"The cat skeleton was found near some pottery shards. Pinback Nov 2025 #2
That innate urge to test gravity! TexasBushwhacker Nov 2025 #20
Fascinating news! Thank you. nt Ilsa Nov 2025 #3
I can domesticate him Norrrm Nov 2025 #4
Yes, but that was not in Eurpoe. soldierant Nov 2025 #14
No, actually they're quite clear that they're not. Igel Nov 2025 #21
I said it poorly but we agree. soldierant Nov 2025 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author soldierant Nov 2025 #23
Mine own proofs BettyBlueDot Nov 2025 #5
How familiar......hmmm, JMCKUSICK Nov 2025 #6
Oh I love ginger kitties. They have such cute personalities. Ziggysmom Nov 2025 #13
Welcome to DU Betty ! KS Toronado Nov 2025 #9
I think its well known that we didn't domesticate cats. Xolodno Nov 2025 #7
Cats were domesticated? Blumancru Nov 2025 #8
News to our feline overlords as well!!! niyad Nov 2025 #10
Cats are the only true socialists. If you own it, so does the cat. marble falls Nov 2025 #12
I'm surprised. Cats were domesticated in Egypt for centuries before that. Perhaps for 10,000 years in the mideast. marble falls Nov 2025 #11
Excellent point. It could explain the difference in temperament between "asian" cats and other breeds. Martin68 Nov 2025 #17
My cat domesticates me Stacey Grove Nov 2025 #15
Evidence of a more recent domestication confirms why cat are less inclined to obey, and more inclined to compromise Martin68 Nov 2025 #16
It takes about five cats to equal the trouble of one dog airplaneman Nov 2025 #22
Exactly! That's why we have two cats and no dog. We can leave for the weekend, leave plenty of food out for them, and Martin68 Nov 2025 #25
Roman playwright Plautus "Nomen est omen" LudwigPastorius Nov 2025 #18
at one time... da svenster Nov 2025 #19
Whenever or wherever domestication began, I'm just so glad... 3catwoman3 Nov 2025 #26
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