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Martin Eden

(15,273 posts)
24. History has certainly judged it to be so
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 02:40 PM
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I assume your speculative scenario reasons that a stronger unified message from Britain and France in Sep 1938 would have prompted Hitler to invade the West first, before the allies had time to build up their military capabilities. Of course, Germany would first have to conquer France, which would have become the base. Any amphibious effort to take over England was highly dubious, whether in 1939 or as events unfolded. The Royal Air Force was no slouch, and England's navy was by far the mightiest in Europe.

Alternative history (if this or that happened differently) can be interesting speculation, but I doubt a stronger message from Chamberlain (instead of appeasement) would have altered Germany's strategic need to secure its Eastern front first with a relatively easy victory in Poland. It was good training for their new blitzkreig warfare. Without the Non-aggression pact with Russia, no telling what Stalin would have done. He was a blood enemy, and every bit as murderous a dictator as Hitler.

In any event, Neville Chamberlain earned his infamous place in history.

As will Trump, when his fascist regime is on the ash heap.

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So he just called him a spineless weasel wolfie001 Saturday #1
And PPP* will no doubt take it as a compliment. ... littlemissmartypants Saturday #5
pResident Pee Pee? wolfie001 Saturday #13
Good list, very revealing ck4829 20 hrs ago #45
True that ... he spoke truth NotHardly Saturday #16
Chamberlane tried to delay the inevitable. BradBo Saturday #2
"He delayed Hitler just long enough so Britian could arm" speak easy Saturday #3
radar alone was worth waiting dsc Saturday #10
You are assuming there would not have been a ground war in Europe. speak easy Saturday #12
I was meaning from the UK's perspective dsc Saturday #14
I was assuming that Britain would have preferred a ground war in Europe in 1938 speak easy Saturday #34
..perhaps what Putin has on Krasnov.. thomski64 Saturday #4
He really delayed nothing. But to your point, at least he wasn't a foreign operative like Krasnov. paleotn Saturday #7
Hitler's blitzkreig into Poland then into western Europe was almost certainly inevitable Martin Eden Saturday #18
'sent to Hitler a message of weakness, not strength.' Was that actually a bad thing in the end though really? cstanleytech Saturday #21
History has certainly judged it to be so Martin Eden Saturday #24
I heard Chamberlain was worse than that PATRICK Saturday #31
Well I was thinking more of a blitzkrieg type invasion of England bypassing France for now. cstanleytech Saturday #35
Blitzkreig depends on air and ground forces. You're aware that Great Britain is an island, right? Martin Eden Saturday #36
Ahhh, okay thanks for explaining ☺️ cstanleytech Saturday #37
In his deranged mind, he would take it as a compliment. The Madcap Saturday #6
Oh my, had not thought of that. niyad Saturday #9
bacon is a little late to the party. people have been calling krasnov niyad Saturday #8
Actually, much worse than Chamberlain PATRICK Saturday #32
Very late ck4829 20 hrs ago #44
Call it for what it is; A Russian dictated surrender document, "The white House peace plan" rewards Putin for Botany Saturday #11
That is exactly what it is ck4829 20 hrs ago #46
Why? Playingmantis Saturday #15
Great question ck4829 19 hrs ago #47
Trump is more like Mussolini Martin Eden Saturday #17
Maybe he'll rename the U.S Tomainia? Dave Bowman Saturday #28
Mini-Mussolini thought crime Sunday #38
He's been called Mango Mussolini Martin Eden Sunday #40
Small Hands Mussolini ck4829 19 hrs ago #48
An apt reference for Donald Trump. ProudMNDemocrat Saturday #19
Trump is far worse than Chamberlain. Whereas the name "Chamberlain" is synonymous with appeasement, Trump Martin68 Saturday #20
Bacon criticizes Piggy. nt SeattleVet Saturday #22
Ha! ck4829 19 hrs ago #50
NOW he gets his brass balls! On his way out. Grins Saturday #23
Right? ck4829 19 hrs ago #49
Why is my Magic 8 Ball running with Quisling? Brother Buzz Saturday #25
This was my question genxlib 19 hrs ago #53
If so... in a Mussolini bodysuit and a Hitler complex. ananda Saturday #26
Far worse than Chamberlain. yorkster Saturday #27
much worse than chambrtlain, who did not actually join the axis rampartd Saturday #29
Bingo ck4829 20 hrs ago #43
There is a huge fallacy with this comparison. Bluetus Saturday #30
Agree PATRICK Saturday #33
He appeases like Chamberlain but thinks like Charles Lindbergh thought crime Sunday #39
Very apt. ck4829 20 hrs ago #42
K&R ck4829 20 hrs ago #41
Difficult to perceive Mr. trump's jelly-filled appeasements of Putin Torchlight 19 hrs ago #51
Has he looked in a mirror recently? SSJVegeta 19 hrs ago #52
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