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18. GUN SAFETY rules are no more unconstitutional than RULES for the road in an auto, or game.

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 02:53 PM

Jan 2013

It took years of protests by auto industry and thousands of lives lost before we got seat belts in cars. It took years of poisoning the public with tainted food before we got regulations to stop illegal, greed in COMMERCE. It has taken far too long to get some reasonable gun ownership and safety rules on the books. It is not reasonable in a civilized society for individuals to own MILITARY GRADE WEAPONS that can be object of mass murder.
ATF does not have a director. That is dereliction of duty on part of the US SENATE. It is a national disgrace that CONGRESS has weakened our govt at home, and USE our national strength to dominate world politics and markets, not for the many but for the few.
And remember, regulations come about because people's abuse or misuse of duty, authority or property that it interferes with the commonwealth. GUN ownership must not trump right to life and in far too many instances, it is the misuse of FREEDOM to own guns that has led to the need to regulate the ownership of guns.

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Ted Cruz: New Gun Control Proposals 'Unconstitutional' [View all] TomCADem Jan 2013 OP

No, really? primavera Jan 2013 #1

Ted Cruz is a punk!!!!!N/T busterbrown Jan 2013 #2

I didn't know bucolic_frolic Jan 2013 #3

What part of "Well regulated milita..." escapes him? RC Jan 2013 #4

Mad Dog Scalia held in the gun nuts' beloved Heller ruling... primavera Jan 2013 #6

well, Tony Scalia would know the Founders' mindset NewJeffCT Jan 2013 #12

Lol! primavera Jan 2013 #17

Scalia can be shown to ignore Original Intent when it suits him Fortinbras Armstrong Jan 2013 #60

He's such a bloody hypocrite primavera Jan 2013 #61

By having them trained and armed so as to conform to standards for militias. Igel Jan 2013 #20

A well trained militia also covers their weapons. RC Jan 2013 #30

THREE commas: lastlib Jan 2013 #35

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If you have information, by all means share it arcane1 Jan 2013 #39

great quote from Jimmy Carter. I hope he used it on those who followed him in the White House yurbud Jan 2013 #57

No! 'WELL REGULATED militia' godai Jan 2013 #5

In the 1700s the word "regulation" meant "trained". former9thward Jan 2013 #27

The court has long held that regulation is fully constitutional BainsBane Jan 2013 #40

I am familar with 2nd amendment case law. former9thward Jan 2013 #44

Well, if you want to get to original intent BainsBane Jan 2013 #46

Did Morgan write under the name "James Madison"? former9thward Jan 2013 #51

He's a historian, as I already made clear BainsBane Jan 2013 #54

As a lawyer I don't take anyones word for anything. former9thward Jan 2013 #65

If it had validated your pro-gun view BainsBane Jan 2013 #67

And if it attacked your anti-rights view you would not have presented it. former9thward Jan 2013 #69

sure BainsBane Jan 2013 #70

Actually I have a history degree and it is my favorite 'hobby' in life. former9thward Jan 2013 #71

does he have facts to back up his claims?? Angry Dragon Jan 2013 #7

Gun bans may be unconstitutional according to the SCOTUS decision of 2008. dhpgetsit Jan 2013 #8

Yeah, the Atlantic is publishing more and more right-wing stuff these days primavera Jan 2013 #31

No meaningful sulphurdunn Jan 2013 #9

Ted's just another fool who puts the ASS in Tex-ASS Joe Bacon Jan 2013 #10

Sounds like several gungeoners that I've come across. baldguy Jan 2013 #11

Congrats, Gun Enthusiasts. Paladin Jan 2013 #13

Wrong. elleng Jan 2013 #14

Has he tried Viagra? nt onehandle Jan 2013 #15

so Senator Cruz, are you pro life or pro death? mwooldri Jan 2013 #16

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GUN SAFETY rules are no more unconstitutional than RULES for the road in an auto, or game. CarmanK Jan 2013 #18

So your answer is.... pedrowarez Jan 2013 #43

Only six more years of this idiot..... marble falls Jan 2013 #19

You a Republican? An Eisenhower Republican right? alp227 Jan 2013 #36

A populist, prgressive Teddy Roosevelt (less the wars), Fightin 'Bob LaFolette, Bob Taft, Adli .... marble falls Jan 2013 #58

So Mad Dog Cruz, Are You Packing Heat Today? triplepoint Jan 2013 #21

Does not compute.... pedrowarez Jan 2013 #45

The problem is, every time one of these laws is suggested or enacted, high-capacity mags and truthisfreedom Jan 2013 #22

so you think you're safe too.... pedrowarez Jan 2013 #47

so tell me this... pedrowarez Jan 2013 #48

No, it really isn't that simple mokawanis Jan 2013 #72

He's wrong, of course. Tempest Jan 2013 #23

Democratic Senator Heidi Heitkamp rainlillie Jan 2013 #24

And his TeaBagger, Regressive-Cuban(not the 50%voting Dem) wingnuttery proCEEDS!1 n/t UTUSN Jan 2013 #25

I tweeted and asked him if his two underthematrix Jan 2013 #26

the standard right wing bullshit has started samsingh Jan 2013 #28

A.K.A the N.R.A gives me tons of campaign donations n/t Ztolkins Jan 2013 #29

There is no constitutionally protected right bowens43 Jan 2013 #32

well then... pedrowarez Jan 2013 #50

WHAT was NEVER heard,,, benld74 Jan 2013 #33

We should change the Second Amendment to include the words "well-regulated." Oh, wait. Towlie Jan 2013 #34

the right to bear arms maindawg Jan 2013 #38

If we went strickly by the constitution then shouldnt those in the militia only have the weapons? cstanleytech Jan 2013 #41

Any able bodied person can be in a militia if they wish, it is all voluntary pediatricmedic Jan 2013 #55

My apologies, I didnt realize the constitution said the goverment wasnt to run the militias. cstanleytech Jan 2013 #56

No apologies needed, if the government decided to run a militia, it would cease to be a militia... pediatricmedic Jan 2013 #59

Militias were formed to stand against government or any other group who humblebum Jan 2013 #62

Yes but the founders also left us the ability to change cstanleytech Jan 2013 #64

Agree. And so can the weapons of those who might attempt to take away those weapons. humblebum Jan 2013 #66

The gov't already says who's in the militia, and it's a lot more than you might think sir pball Jan 2013 #63

I just don't see gun regulations passing in my lifetime. WhoWoodaKnew Jan 2013 #49

I agree. There may be more detailed backgrounds checks, etc but we'll always be able to buy guns. WhoWoodaKnew Jan 2013 #73

Woukd anyone in Mass. care for one TP a--hole in exchange TX gets Elizabeth Warren. Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #52

No constitutional right to shoot a child 11 times. CBHagman Jan 2013 #53

This Cruz dolt is a SENATOR, not a JUDGE RussBLib Jan 2013 #68