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caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
44. No, that's not the kind of logic that did it.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 12:44 PM
Jan 2012

One has to see that criminals, such as the extortionist in the Lacrosse case, are not the brightest people, and in that case, she did "set it up." I seem to remember she was a stripper, and apparently did have sex with one or more of them, so after the fact, she didn't really think through her options.

In this case, it seems that it's a woman who had months to think about this. And unlike the Lacrosse case, she wouldn't be blackmailing the wealthy, or going for media attention. She's throwing herself into the jaws of the police power structure. That's something that would have made the woman in the Lacrosse case recoil.

And I'll point this out: The Lacrosse case was exceptional. Only about two percent of accused rapes are fake (my estimate). About ten percent more may be ambiguous, where, say, consent was given then withdrawn. Chance says that after the accusation, you could have guessed rape had occurred and been right close to ninety percent of the time.

The motive for faking a rape, generally, is very indirect and let's say, more dependent on scheming and calculation. Whereas the motive for rape itself is quite direct. It's not like a rapist performs his crime for monetary gain or as an attempt at publicity. This makes rapes for more prevalent than faked ones.

And the question I asked was still fair in the Lacrosse case: why would she fake this? In the Lacrosse case, the answer finally came out.

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Whoa. k/r deacon Jan 2012 #1
I wish her luck. She's gonna need it. nt valerief Jan 2012 #2
You said it. n/t Sera_Bellum Jan 2012 #24
But isn't there something odd about her keeping in touch with him afterwards? cyberpj Jan 2012 #40
my thoughts exactly wordpix Jan 2012 #48
this sounds dubious to me naaman fletcher Jan 2012 #60
Or would have prefered not to have gotten into a stoush with... TheMadMonk Jan 2012 #66
Or, if I wrote novels, maybe set the guy up thinking easy settlement. cyberpj Jan 2012 #67
Maybe he was stalking her and she was telling him to get lost. nt valerief Jan 2012 #68
I love watching Joel McHale make fun of him on The Soup slay Jan 2012 #3
yes those pieces are always funny wordpix Jan 2012 #49
What channel or network? Responder3 Jan 2012 #63
The Soup secondvariety Jan 2012 #64
Another typical gopiscrap Jan 2012 #4
So he's guilty? Renew Deal Jan 2012 #6
True but why would a woman take this kind of risk? caseymoz Jan 2012 #27
It's that type logic that almost sent the Duke lacrosse players to prison SpartanDem Jan 2012 #33
No, that's not the kind of logic that did it. caseymoz Jan 2012 #44
Why? Her boyfriend found out she had cheated on him with Kelly. n/t Lance_Boyle Jan 2012 #34
If she's that dumb she'd be in far more trouble far sooner. caseymoz Jan 2012 #46
Not dumb - she just knows she won't be charged for filing a false report. Lance_Boyle Jan 2012 #52
She won't? You could cite the law on this? caseymoz Jan 2012 #55
Wait, afterthought. This might have happened: caseymoz Jan 2012 #59
Or, gee, a "sex in the work-place" fantasy..... PavePusher Jan 2012 #75
No, it's just your knowledge is limited by your poor reading. caseymoz Jan 2012 #77
Perhaps you missed my last sentance. Have a good night. n/t PavePusher Jan 2012 #78
This message was self-deleted by its author caseymoz Jan 2012 #79
No, I didn't. caseymoz Jan 2012 #80
Her cat will probably end up dead rusty fender Jan 2012 #35
The hornets she's kicked up don't have to be that passive-aggressive. caseymoz Jan 2012 #47
Haven't you heard? Trials are passe' now. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2012 #37
Not a trial, I'm just guessing. caseymoz Jan 2012 #51
I don't think that an opinion about the guilt or innocence of a person LanternWaste Jan 2012 #61
They are only investigating..............he hasnt been convicted so tad early to be bashing him. nt cstanleytech Jan 2012 #7
Not too early IMHO since 'Cons have a history of perverted sexual behavior. nt live love laugh Jan 2012 #8
And Dems don't. Weiner doesn't ring a bell?! n/t vaberella Jan 2012 #12
I'm pretty sure 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #13
Who cheats most isnt the point though its that as of now this is only cstanleytech Jan 2012 #15
well I was thinking 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #16
There are plenty of Dems do a search. vaberella Jan 2012 #58
Weiner hardly did anything wrong. His communications were text and phone calls and N7Shepard Jan 2012 #21
I agree 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #22
I think flirting and rape are pretty different. harmonicon Jan 2012 #14
Only if you're a Democrat. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2012 #28
Thank you for saying that. IOKIYAR is the policy ... prairierose Jan 2012 #29
Sounds like your apologising for the man. vaberella Jan 2012 #57
Not Innocent? He didn't commit a crime. harmonicon Jan 2012 #65
Right. But he's not free from being classed as a sexual pervert which you seem to be arguing. n/t vaberella Jan 2012 #71
or, as people in other countries call it, a person. nt. harmonicon Jan 2012 #72
That's kinda my premise also gopiscrap Jan 2012 #30
Silly question: is he known to be a Republican with certainty? nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #43
Wow .... Trajan Jan 2012 #17
At the rate we're going, it won't be long before we're taking GOP loyalty oaths. Octafish Jan 2012 #20
AGREED!!!! gopiscrap Jan 2012 #31
Yep, sounds like that may well describe this likely false accuser. n/t Lance_Boyle Jan 2012 #10
Rape has nothing to do with party affiliation. Beacool Jan 2012 #73
A sketchy case - I'd be surprised if a DA entertains prosecution BOHICA12 Jan 2012 #5
They continued phone and text contact with each other after the incident, and Lance_Boyle Jan 2012 #9
It could be a false report, but people do different things when faced with chrisa Jan 2012 #56
I predict that all this incident will do is tarnish Mister Kelly's reputation (such as it is). MADem Jan 2012 #11
I agree Mz Pip Jan 2012 #32
I withhold judgment on this one. chrisa Jan 2012 #18
I guess it kind of 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #23
She didn't report it when he found out - he did. Lance_Boyle Jan 2012 #25
He went and accused the Commissioner's son of ruining his girlfriend's life chrisa Jan 2012 #26
reporting a "rape" 3 mos. after it happened doesn't pass the smell test wordpix Jan 2012 #50
Not exactly - many don't report rape until years after it happened, or even at all chrisa Jan 2012 #54
Holy shit. originalpckelly Jan 2012 #19
String the fucker up! Odin2005 Jan 2012 #36
Yeah! Right next to the boys from the Duke Lacrosse team, right? Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #39
I thought "If he is guilty" part was implied. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #45
No, what you implied was that he is guilty. nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #53
No it wasn't. Not in the slightest. n/t whopis01 Jan 2012 #62
Keep it in the familiy Vidar Jan 2012 #38
In "The Goodbye Girl", Marsha Mason's character threatens to cry "rape!" if Richard closeupready Jan 2012 #41
The details make me hold back a bit on this one: cyberpj Jan 2012 #42
You suppose Faux News will find this newsworthy? - n/t primavera Jan 2012 #69
I really hope no national media finds it "newsworthy" until some actual evidence can be displayed. PavePusher Jan 2012 #76
Ironic! Impossible to even guess from the facts that I have read whether she is telling the truth. JDPriestly Jan 2012 #70
"The two continued to have contact by phone and text message after the encounter." tawadi Jan 2012 #74
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