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Fortinbras Armstrong

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60. Scalia can be shown to ignore Original Intent when it suits him
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 10:15 AM
Jan 2013

Last edited Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:31 PM - Edit history (1)

In the case of Gonzales v. Raich, 545 U.S. 1 (2005), Angel Raich was growing marijuana for her own medicinal use, legal under California law. The Supreme Court, in a 6-3 decision, held this to be illegal under Federal law. A concurring opinion was written by Scalia, who based the decision ultimately under the Interstate Commerce clause of the Constitution and the Necessary and Proper Clause, saying

Unlike the power to regulate activities that have a substantial effect on interstate commerce, the power to enact laws enabling effective regulation of interstate commerce can only be exercised in conjunction with congressional regulation of an interstate market, and it extends only to those measures necessary to make the interstate regulation effective. As US v. Lopez, 514 U.S. 549 (1995) itself states, and the Court affirms today, Congress may regulate noneconomic intrastate activities only where the failure to do so “could ... undercut” its regulation of interstate commerce. ... This is not a power that threatens to obliterate the line between “what is truly national and what is truly local.


Interestingly enough, Justice O'Connor based her dissent on exactly the same case Scalia based his concurrance, Lopez. She said that Lopez placed limits on Federal use of the Interstate Commerce clause and Raich's use of marijuana came under those limits.

Clarence Thomas, of all people, said that the majority was wrong, saying that Raich grew and used

marijuana that has never been bought or sold, that has never crossed state lines, and that has had no demonstrable effect on the national market for marijuana. If Congress can regulate this under the Commerce Clause, then it can regulate virtually anything--and the Federal government is no longer one of limited and enumerated powers. ... By holding that Congress may regulate activity that is neither interstate nor commerce under the Interstate Commerce Clause, the Court abandons any attempt to enforce the Constitution's limits on federal power.


Thomas wrote: "The Necessary and Proper Clause is not a warrant to Congress to enact any law that bears some conceivable connection to the exercise of an enumerated power". He went on to say "Congress presented no evidence in support of its conclusions, which are not so much findings of fact as assertions of power," and concluded: "Congress cannot define the scope of its own power merely by declaring the necessity of its enactments".

The gist of Thomas' dissent comes straight out of original intent:

Respondent's local cultivation and consumption of marijuana is not "Commerce ... among the several States". Certainly no evidence from the founding suggests that "commerce" included the mere possession of a good or some personal activity that did not involve trade or exchange for value. In the early days of the Republic, it would have been unthinkable that Congress could prohibit the local cultivation, possession, and consumption of marijuana.


I believe that here, Thomas is quite right, and Scalia only really supports "original intent" when he agrees with it.

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No, really? primavera Jan 2013 #1
Ted Cruz is a punk!!!!!N/T busterbrown Jan 2013 #2
I didn't know bucolic_frolic Jan 2013 #3
What part of "Well regulated milita..." escapes him? RC Jan 2013 #4
Mad Dog Scalia held in the gun nuts' beloved Heller ruling... primavera Jan 2013 #6
well, Tony Scalia would know the Founders' mindset NewJeffCT Jan 2013 #12
Lol! primavera Jan 2013 #17
Scalia can be shown to ignore Original Intent when it suits him Fortinbras Armstrong Jan 2013 #60
He's such a bloody hypocrite primavera Jan 2013 #61
By having them trained and armed so as to conform to standards for militias. Igel Jan 2013 #20
A well trained militia also covers their weapons. RC Jan 2013 #30
THREE commas: lastlib Jan 2013 #35
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #37
If you have information, by all means share it arcane1 Jan 2013 #39
great quote from Jimmy Carter. I hope he used it on those who followed him in the White House yurbud Jan 2013 #57
No! 'WELL REGULATED militia' godai Jan 2013 #5
In the 1700s the word "regulation" meant "trained". former9thward Jan 2013 #27
The court has long held that regulation is fully constitutional BainsBane Jan 2013 #40
I am familar with 2nd amendment case law. former9thward Jan 2013 #44
Well, if you want to get to original intent BainsBane Jan 2013 #46
Did Morgan write under the name "James Madison"? former9thward Jan 2013 #51
He's a historian, as I already made clear BainsBane Jan 2013 #54
As a lawyer I don't take anyones word for anything. former9thward Jan 2013 #65
If it had validated your pro-gun view BainsBane Jan 2013 #67
And if it attacked your anti-rights view you would not have presented it. former9thward Jan 2013 #69
sure BainsBane Jan 2013 #70
Actually I have a history degree and it is my favorite 'hobby' in life. former9thward Jan 2013 #71
does he have facts to back up his claims?? Angry Dragon Jan 2013 #7
Gun bans may be unconstitutional according to the SCOTUS decision of 2008. dhpgetsit Jan 2013 #8
Yeah, the Atlantic is publishing more and more right-wing stuff these days primavera Jan 2013 #31
No meaningful sulphurdunn Jan 2013 #9
Ted's just another fool who puts the ASS in Tex-ASS Joe Bacon Jan 2013 #10
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Wrong. elleng Jan 2013 #14
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so Senator Cruz, are you pro life or pro death? mwooldri Jan 2013 #16
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #42
GUN SAFETY rules are no more unconstitutional than RULES for the road in an auto, or game. CarmanK Jan 2013 #18
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Democratic Senator Heidi Heitkamp rainlillie Jan 2013 #24
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A.K.A the N.R.A gives me tons of campaign donations n/t Ztolkins Jan 2013 #29
There is no constitutionally protected right bowens43 Jan 2013 #32
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WHAT was NEVER heard,,, benld74 Jan 2013 #33
We should change the Second Amendment to include the words "well-regulated." Oh, wait. Towlie Jan 2013 #34
the right to bear arms maindawg Jan 2013 #38
If we went strickly by the constitution then shouldnt those in the militia only have the weapons? cstanleytech Jan 2013 #41
Any able bodied person can be in a militia if they wish, it is all voluntary pediatricmedic Jan 2013 #55
My apologies, I didnt realize the constitution said the goverment wasnt to run the militias. cstanleytech Jan 2013 #56
No apologies needed, if the government decided to run a militia, it would cease to be a militia... pediatricmedic Jan 2013 #59
Militias were formed to stand against government or any other group who humblebum Jan 2013 #62
Yes but the founders also left us the ability to change cstanleytech Jan 2013 #64
Agree. And so can the weapons of those who might attempt to take away those weapons. humblebum Jan 2013 #66
The gov't already says who's in the militia, and it's a lot more than you might think sir pball Jan 2013 #63
I just don't see gun regulations passing in my lifetime. WhoWoodaKnew Jan 2013 #49
I agree. There may be more detailed backgrounds checks, etc but we'll always be able to buy guns. WhoWoodaKnew Jan 2013 #73
Woukd anyone in Mass. care for one TP a--hole in exchange TX gets Elizabeth Warren. Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #52
No constitutional right to shoot a child 11 times. CBHagman Jan 2013 #53
This Cruz dolt is a SENATOR, not a JUDGE RussBLib Jan 2013 #68
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