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OC375

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52. Echos of The Berlin Conference
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 04:20 PM
Jan 2026

This is Trump and Putin attempting to divide things up for the next 100+ years. Trump wants the US out of Europe, and Putin wants into Europe without the US there. Trump's done his best to kneecap NATO, keep Ukraine out of NATO, and hand Ukraine to Putin, but Putin still can't pull it off.

In exchange Trump gets Greenland and Canada down to the bottom of South America to do whatever with. Venezuela and Greenland are absolutely assets that the US would want to know they can absolutely count on to control in the upcoming geopolitics of scarcity and climate change, and inevitable resource wars to come.

My guess is China is ultimately squeezed out of S.A. and C.A. and can have Taiwan and the rest of Asia, as far as Trump is concerned. I think Japan is in for a shock if they think we will protect them from China or N.K. At the end of the day... Trump doesn't play well in Asia, and the Aussies don't seem to want Trump near them either, so no "In" to Asia for him... So Trump will write Asia off "Fox and the Grapes" style, say "I didn't want it anyway", focus on what's near us, and screw the rest.

And that's the future, as speculated by me...

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As they should... RockRaven Jan 2026 #1
I agree creon Jan 2026 #6
Yeah, Trump and his minions do whatever the fuck they want. raccoon Jan 2026 #37
This should pull the EU into war with the US SSJVegeta Jan 2026 #2
Trump's invasion of Greenland is a war against the EU DBoon Jan 2026 #4
Yup SSJVegeta Jan 2026 #5
Actually, the EU is not a military alliance like NATO, but 23 of the 27 members are also NATO members. Ol Janx Spirit Jan 2026 #20
Incorrect. SSJVegeta Jan 2026 #22
The Treaty of Lisbon has a neutrality clause: Ol Janx Spirit Jan 2026 #25
I think that the EU will prove far more powerful than NATO SSJVegeta Jan 2026 #29
Valid points, but the EU would still be slightly smaller than NATO without the U.S. from a... Ol Janx Spirit Jan 2026 #31
This is such a wild scenario and I kinda makes me angry how there is even SSJVegeta Jan 2026 #32
My thoughts exactly. This is absolute insanity, but here we are. It seems far too plausible. Ol Janx Spirit Jan 2026 #33
Hopefully things get better. SSJVegeta Jan 2026 #45
Hopefully. It feels unlikely so long as the Monstrosity-in-chief sits in the Oval, but we can still hope. Ol Janx Spirit Jan 2026 #46
Oh man... and if right wing propaganda is any indication SSJVegeta Jan 2026 #47
They've hated Europe since before the "freedom fries" days. Ol Janx Spirit Jan 2026 #49
Agreed. And most of those conflicts are entirely asymmetrical SSJVegeta Jan 2026 #53
MAD...I'm afraid.... Ol Janx Spirit Jan 2026 #54
President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen thought crime Jan 2026 #48
a satiation that now exists. rampartd Jan 2026 #43
Though this order might effectively no longer having legal effect today. TomWilm Jan 2026 #3
When you're dealing with Nazis and Hitler wannabes... ananda Jan 2026 #7
So... on this point Tr*mp is right, that laws is useless? TomWilm Jan 2026 #39
This is a law based on delays in fighting against Nazi Germany. ananda Jan 2026 #44
... then it is up to you and what is left to fight him back home ... TomWilm Jan 2026 #50
One thing I've learned the hard way... ananda Jan 2026 #51
Then you really need to learn that ... TomWilm Jan 2026 #55
Ok, you try it and see what happens. ananda Jan 2026 #56
I did such stuff, and still do ... TomWilm Jan 2026 #60
I'm not sure how taking the high and legal road EllieBC Jan 2026 #58
Discussion in Parliament and actual tactics on the ground... paleotn Jan 2026 #9
That was initially meant to deter Russian aggression. paleotn Jan 2026 #8
Yes, we are now the russian-asset aggressors. Clouds Passing Jan 2026 #10
"Are we the baddies?" video clip: tblue37 Jan 2026 #12
Just so everyone understands, the Danes fiercely resisted the Nazis from the very beginning of the occupation. flashman13 Jan 2026 #11
Thank You for the reminder.. We're Counting Cha Jan 2026 #17
Yes. Our ancestors are famous for their mostly nonviolent resistance ... TomWilm Jan 2026 #61
The source is The Telegraph. Yahoo.com is simply the news aggregator website hosting the article progree Jan 2026 #13
I'm just surprised that markodochartaigh Jan 2026 #14
Comic relief... littlemissmartypants Jan 2026 #30
Western Europe learned ninety years ago appeasement is a bad idea. Torchlight Jan 2026 #15
I love Denmark, Greenland, Canada, and Cha Jan 2026 #16
Who'll be the 1st American soldier to die in the oasis Jan 2026 #18
Some "sucker" or "loser" whose name The Dotard will mispronounce as he reads it for RockRaven Jan 2026 #23
The smart move would be to station British, French, and Dutch forces in Greenland. Ford_Prefect Jan 2026 #19
GONE ON THEM NotHardly Jan 2026 #21
I assume that such an order is unnecessary. TomSlick Jan 2026 #24
They understand defending their own country bucolic_frolic Jan 2026 #26
Neither were the Viet Kong. Aussie105 Jan 2026 #35
Completely justified. nt moniss Jan 2026 #27
They learned in WW2 what it is to stand and fight The Blue Flower Jan 2026 #28
Trump is bigly worried. Aussie105 Jan 2026 #34
What a mess Shit For Brains got us into. Initech Jan 2026 #36
I will NEVER forgive those fucking pieces of utter SHIT Trump voters Skittles Jan 2026 #59
I'm a bit worried about myself. Aussie105 Jan 2026 #38
Good for Denmark. Paladin Jan 2026 #40
Protecting themselves ... from us Ruby the Liberal Jan 2026 #41
lets hope the admin is the first off the boat samnsara Jan 2026 #42
Echos of The Berlin Conference OC375 Jan 2026 #52
and the STAND YOUR GROUND repukes won't like that Skittles Jan 2026 #57
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