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OC375

(450 posts)
52. Echos of The Berlin Conference
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 03:20 PM
Yesterday

This is Trump and Putin attempting to divide things up for the next 100+ years. Trump wants the US out of Europe, and Putin wants into Europe without the US there. Trump's done his best to kneecap NATO, keep Ukraine out of NATO, and hand Ukraine to Putin, but Putin still can't pull it off.

In exchange Trump gets Greenland and Canada down to the bottom of South America to do whatever with. Venezuela and Greenland are absolutely assets that the US would want to know they can absolutely count on to control in the upcoming geopolitics of scarcity and climate change, and inevitable resource wars to come.

My guess is China is ultimately squeezed out of S.A. and C.A. and can have Taiwan and the rest of Asia, as far as Trump is concerned. I think Japan is in for a shock if they think we will protect them from China or N.K. At the end of the day... Trump doesn't play well in Asia, and the Aussies don't seem to want Trump near them either, so no "In" to Asia for him... So Trump will write Asia off "Fox and the Grapes" style, say "I didn't want it anyway", focus on what's near us, and screw the rest.

And that's the future, as speculated by me...

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As they should... RockRaven Wednesday #1
I agree creon Wednesday #6
Yeah, Trump and his minions do whatever the fuck they want. raccoon Yesterday #37
This should pull the EU into war with the US SSJVegeta Wednesday #2
Trump's invasion of Greenland is a war against the EU DBoon Wednesday #4
Yup SSJVegeta Wednesday #5
Actually, the EU is not a military alliance like NATO, but 23 of the 27 members are also NATO members. Ol Janx Spirit Wednesday #20
Incorrect. SSJVegeta Wednesday #22
The Treaty of Lisbon has a neutrality clause: Ol Janx Spirit Wednesday #25
I think that the EU will prove far more powerful than NATO SSJVegeta Wednesday #29
Valid points, but the EU would still be slightly smaller than NATO without the U.S. from a... Ol Janx Spirit Wednesday #31
This is such a wild scenario and I kinda makes me angry how there is even SSJVegeta Wednesday #32
My thoughts exactly. This is absolute insanity, but here we are. It seems far too plausible. Ol Janx Spirit Wednesday #33
Hopefully things get better. SSJVegeta Yesterday #45
Hopefully. It feels unlikely so long as the Monstrosity-in-chief sits in the Oval, but we can still hope. Ol Janx Spirit Yesterday #46
Oh man... and if right wing propaganda is any indication SSJVegeta Yesterday #47
They've hated Europe since before the "freedom fries" days. Ol Janx Spirit Yesterday #49
Agreed. And most of those conflicts are entirely asymmetrical SSJVegeta Yesterday #53
MAD...I'm afraid.... Ol Janx Spirit Yesterday #54
President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen thought crime Yesterday #48
a satiation that now exists. rampartd Yesterday #43
Though this order might effectively no longer having legal effect today. TomWilm Wednesday #3
When you're dealing with Nazis and Hitler wannabes... ananda Wednesday #7
So... on this point Tr*mp is right, that laws is useless? TomWilm Yesterday #39
This is a law based on delays in fighting against Nazi Germany. ananda Yesterday #44
... then it is up to you and what is left to fight him back home ... TomWilm Yesterday #50
One thing I've learned the hard way... ananda Yesterday #51
Then you really need to learn that ... TomWilm Yesterday #55
Ok, you try it and see what happens. ananda Yesterday #56
I did such stuff, and still do ... TomWilm Yesterday #60
I'm not sure how taking the high and legal road EllieBC Yesterday #58
Discussion in Parliament and actual tactics on the ground... paleotn Wednesday #9
That was initially meant to deter Russian aggression. paleotn Wednesday #8
Yes, we are now the russian-asset aggressors. Clouds Passing Wednesday #10
"Are we the baddies?" video clip: tblue37 Wednesday #12
Just so everyone understands, the Danes fiercely resisted the Nazis from the very beginning of the occupation. flashman13 Wednesday #11
Thank You for the reminder.. We're Counting Cha Wednesday #17
Yes. Our ancestors are famous for their mostly nonviolent resistance ... TomWilm Yesterday #61
The source is The Telegraph. Yahoo.com is simply the news aggregator website hosting the article progree Wednesday #13
I'm just surprised that markodochartaigh Wednesday #14
Comic relief... littlemissmartypants Wednesday #30
Western Europe learned ninety years ago appeasement is a bad idea. Torchlight Wednesday #15
I love Denmark, Greenland, Canada, and Cha Wednesday #16
Who'll be the 1st American soldier to die in the oasis Wednesday #18
Some "sucker" or "loser" whose name The Dotard will mispronounce as he reads it for RockRaven Wednesday #23
The smart move would be to station British, French, and Dutch forces in Greenland. Ford_Prefect Wednesday #19
GONE ON THEM NotHardly Wednesday #21
I assume that such an order is unnecessary. TomSlick Wednesday #24
They understand defending their own country bucolic_frolic Wednesday #26
Neither were the Viet Kong. Aussie105 Yesterday #35
Completely justified. nt moniss Wednesday #27
They learned in WW2 what it is to stand and fight The Blue Flower Wednesday #28
Trump is bigly worried. Aussie105 Yesterday #34
What a mess Shit For Brains got us into. Initech Yesterday #36
I will NEVER forgive those fucking pieces of utter SHIT Trump voters Skittles Yesterday #59
I'm a bit worried about myself. Aussie105 Yesterday #38
Good for Denmark. Paladin Yesterday #40
Protecting themselves ... from us Ruby the Liberal Yesterday #41
lets hope the admin is the first off the boat samnsara Yesterday #42
Echos of The Berlin Conference OC375 Yesterday #52
and the STAND YOUR GROUND repukes won't like that Skittles Yesterday #57
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