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creon

(1,830 posts)
15. Training
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 03:54 PM
Thursday

"Let’s talk about something. The fact that the ICE agent who murdered Renee Good was dragged by a moving vehicle in a prior incident is not a defense, it actually makes the situation much worse for him. In law-enforcement reviews, a previous similar incident doesn’t excuse later conduct; it establishes that the risk was known and that the officer had already been warned, reviewed, and retrained. Instead of supporting his justification, it raises the standard of care he was expected to follow.
ICE agents, like all federal law-enforcement officers, are trained not to place themselves in front of or alongside moving vehicles. Vehicles are treated as inherently dangerous, and standard training emphasizes creating distance, stepping out of the vehicle’s path, and avoiding positions where an officer could be struck or dragged. Putting yourself in the way of a moving car is considered a violation of basic officer-safety principles.
Now consider the earlier incident where he was reportedly dragged. That would have triggered a formal after-action review and almost certainly required retraining focused specifically on vehicle encounters and positioning. At that point, the danger is no longer hypothetical it is documented, understood, and directly addressed through training or corrective action.
When the same officer later places himself in the path of a moving vehicle again, it looks significantly worse from a professional standpoint. It suggests he repeated conduct he had already been trained to avoid. In law-enforcement terms, that shows a failure to apply training and a pattern of negligent behavior, not a one-time mistake.
Finally, in use-of-force evaluations, officers generally cannot create their own danger and then rely on that danger to justify deadly force. If an officer acts contrary to training, puts himself in harm’s way, and then escalates force because of that self-created risk, investigators and courts view that as increased responsibility, not a valid excuse.

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Easy to imagine Trump getting a doctor's note to swear Ross suffered a PTSD flash-back when he murdered the woman Attilatheblond Thursday #1
Agent With a Mental Illness 2na fisherman Thursday #8
I doubt he suffered from PTSD, but I expect that to be the next excuse Noem/Trump pull outta their asses Attilatheblond Thursday #16
This means trouble for anyone with the same name. Frasier Balzov Thursday #2
No JD, I'd think he'd try to avoid that situation AND not murder someone underpants Thursday #3
And his superiors have a duty to make sure he's fit for duty. hamsterjill Thursday #7
Yeah this is pretty telling about literally being any warm body. 6 months? underpants Thursday #11
If he's that sensitive - cab67 Thursday #9
I think it's telling who they've got on the streets underpants Thursday #12
So he knew exactly how to stage the murder. pwb Thursday #4
33 stitches underpants Thursday #5
I guess he is even now eh? pwb Yesterday #20
Well... Ollie Garkie Thursday #6
Oh so he's the victum? bluestarone Thursday #10
You know, the sources I've heard this from are far, far from being on his side. Igel Thursday #18
"Little public information is available about Ross, described only by federal officials as "an experienced" officer." hamsterjill Thursday #13
Give it a couple months and we might see Attilatheblond Thursday #17
Sounds like a guy who stupidly places himself in front of cars Prairie Gates Thursday #14
Training creon Thursday #15
The best part is Noem doxxed him herself. SunSeeker Thursday #19
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